Comments on: The Traveler’s Guide To Bypassing Internet Censorship http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2008/05/06/the-travelers-guide-to-bypassing-internet-censorship/ Online travel magazine dedicated to exploring travel in the 21st century. Offering travel news, compelling interviews, online travel tools, and more. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:14:28 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: sascha matuszak http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2008/05/06/the-travelers-guide-to-bypassing-internet-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-66567 sascha matuszak Sat, 10 May 2008 05:44:13 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=552#comment-66567 great tips and good topic. I live in china, been through the middle east before and as a writer who needs access in order to eat, i find proxies and portables to be an indispensable part of my life. and concerning following the rules: in China the censorship is there to create sheep. plain and simple. if you are downloading porn and passing it out in cairo, may the lord have mercy on yer soul, but if yer spreading knowledge, then may the lord light yer path. peace sascha (i am not a religious dude, i just love biblical language) great tips and good topic. I live in china, been through the middle east before and as a writer who needs access in order to eat, i find proxies and portables to be an indispensable part of my life.

and concerning following the rules: in China the censorship is there to create sheep. plain and simple. if you are downloading porn and passing it out in cairo, may the lord have mercy on yer soul, but if yer spreading knowledge, then may the lord light yer path.

peace
sascha (i am not a religious dude, i just love biblical language)

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]]> By: Share It http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2008/05/06/the-travelers-guide-to-bypassing-internet-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-66448 Share It Fri, 09 May 2008 16:50:59 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=552#comment-66448 [...] your not in Saudi Arabia, China or any other country that has access restrictions. If you are then check out this guide on how to bypass online censorship.  Link to this | E-mail this | Digg this | Post to del.icio.us Published Friday, May 09, [...] [...] your not in Saudi Arabia, China or any other country that has access restrictions. If you are then check out this guide on how to bypass online censorship.  Link to this | E-mail this | Digg this | Post to del.icio.us Published Friday, May 09, [...]

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]]> By: Steve Morley http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2008/05/06/the-travelers-guide-to-bypassing-internet-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-65738 Steve Morley Wed, 07 May 2008 13:53:45 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=552#comment-65738 David, Thanks for your use of my software application in your tips you offered. I'm happy to see people are recognizing it and recommending it to others! However, I would like to suggest to not download PortableTor from torrent sites. As the developer of this package, I can only guarantee PortableTor is a safe package if it comes from the project's main Sourceforge site, http://portabletor.sf.net. I recommend people go there for PortableTor if they are interested, instead of using torrent sites for it. Thanks for your understanding, and thanks for the article!, Steve Morley Silivrenion Developer of PortableTor http://portabletor.sf.net David,

Thanks for your use of my software application in your tips you offered. I’m happy to see people are recognizing it and recommending it to others!

However, I would like to suggest to not download PortableTor from torrent sites. As the developer of this package, I can only guarantee PortableTor is a safe package if it comes from the project’s main Sourceforge site, http://portabletor.sf.net.

I recommend people go there for PortableTor if they are interested, instead of using torrent sites for it.

Thanks for your understanding, and thanks for the article!,

Steve Morley
Silivrenion
Developer of PortableTor
http://portabletor.sf.net

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]]> By: Eva http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2008/05/06/the-travelers-guide-to-bypassing-internet-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-65709 Eva Wed, 07 May 2008 12:11:49 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=552#comment-65709 "...at the end of the day if I go to someone else’s country I think I should follow their rules : if that requires wearing modest clothing I do. To be honest u should be out enjoying where u are not checking out the BBC!" I think the key difference here is, internet censorship is pure, modern state control. It has nothing to do with a place's traditions, whereas dress codes - arguably, though you could make an argument for them being pure patriarchal control - are more culturally grounded. Not that I'd necessarily have the guts to do it, but bypassing these controls to bring the truth about these sorts of places to the world via your blog, or to access the truth about the rest of the world while you're there via the BBC or whatever - that's quite likely a good thing. Anyhow, I don't think there should be a rule about not checking the news when you travel. The world continues to turn... There's no point becoming ignorant about it just because you're on holiday. “…at the end of the day if I go to someone else’s country I think I should follow their rules : if that requires wearing modest clothing I do. To be honest u should be out enjoying where u are not checking out the BBC!”

I think the key difference here is, internet censorship is pure, modern state control. It has nothing to do with a place’s traditions, whereas dress codes – arguably, though you could make an argument for them being pure patriarchal control – are more culturally grounded.

Not that I’d necessarily have the guts to do it, but bypassing these controls to bring the truth about these sorts of places to the world via your blog, or to access the truth about the rest of the world while you’re there via the BBC or whatever – that’s quite likely a good thing.

Anyhow, I don’t think there should be a rule about not checking the news when you travel. The world continues to turn… There’s no point becoming ignorant about it just because you’re on holiday.

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]]> By: Ian MacKenzie http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2008/05/06/the-travelers-guide-to-bypassing-internet-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-65599 Ian MacKenzie Wed, 07 May 2008 02:32:44 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=552#comment-65599 Great comments! I'm on the side of the "information was meant to be free" argument - but then again, I don't know if I'd risk it in as a guest in a censored country. David offered some great tips for perhaps those web surfers that actually live in said censored country. You never know when you might disappear into a black hole... Great comments! I’m on the side of the “information was meant to be free” argument – but then again, I don’t know if I’d risk it in as a guest in a censored country. David offered some great tips for perhaps those web surfers that actually live in said censored country. You never know when you might disappear into a black hole…

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]]> By: Daniel Harbecke http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2008/05/06/the-travelers-guide-to-bypassing-internet-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-65362 Daniel Harbecke Tue, 06 May 2008 14:46:54 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=552#comment-65362 Erm, a correction: I'm not saying laws are meant to be broken, I just mean some laws aren't very good, and we aren't robots... If you think a law's no good, do something about it; but if you're going to flat-out break it, expect some unpleasant feedback. If you can do the time, then... you know. Erm, a correction: I’m not saying laws are meant to be broken, I just mean some laws aren’t very good, and we aren’t robots… If you think a law’s no good, do something about it; but if you’re going to flat-out break it, expect some unpleasant feedback. If you can do the time, then… you know.

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]]> By: Daniel Harbecke http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2008/05/06/the-travelers-guide-to-bypassing-internet-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-65347 Daniel Harbecke Tue, 06 May 2008 14:01:47 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=552#comment-65347 I agree and disagree, lissie. If you've been in someplace for a month and there's no sign of that changing anytime soon, enjoying where you are gets kinda stale without getting back to some homemaking habits. I don't like censorship, but I'm lucky to be in a country where I can get riled about it. (For example, if we had more access to other ways of looking at pre-war Iraq, we may have a more manageable situation instead of what we've got now...) But you're right, you can't assume when you go someplace else that you have the same liberties. You take a big risk when you break some of these laws: Midnight Cowboy comes to mind, and it's mild compared to Sharia law. If you decide certain laws cramp your lifestyle - and everyone does, or should - you invite the consequences. Still, it's your life. Just be careful... I agree and disagree, lissie. If you’ve been in someplace for a month and there’s no sign of that changing anytime soon, enjoying where you are gets kinda stale without getting back to some homemaking habits.

I don’t like censorship, but I’m lucky to be in a country where I can get riled about it. (For example, if we had more access to other ways of looking at pre-war Iraq, we may have a more manageable situation instead of what we’ve got now…) But you’re right, you can’t assume when you go someplace else that you have the same liberties.

You take a big risk when you break some of these laws: Midnight Cowboy comes to mind, and it’s mild compared to Sharia law. If you decide certain laws cramp your lifestyle – and everyone does, or should – you invite the consequences. Still, it’s your life. Just be careful…

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]]> By: lissie http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2008/05/06/the-travelers-guide-to-bypassing-internet-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-65331 lissie Tue, 06 May 2008 13:10:41 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=552#comment-65331 I agree that censorship is wrong but at the end of the day if I go to someone else's country I think I should follow their rules : if that requires wearing modest clothing I do. To be honest u should be out enjoying where u are not checking out the BBC! I agree that censorship is wrong but at the end of the day if I go to someone else’s country I think I should follow their rules : if that requires wearing modest clothing I do. To be honest u should be out enjoying where u are not checking out the BBC!

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