Comments on: The Tao Of Vagabond Travel http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2008/06/04/the-tao-of-vagabond-travel/ Online travel magazine dedicated to exploring travel in the 21st century. Offering travel news, compelling interviews, online travel tools, and more. Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:02:23 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Heather Carreiro http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2008/06/04/the-tao-of-vagabond-travel/comment-page-1/#comment-96554 Heather Carreiro Sun, 24 Jan 2010 00:08:03 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=582#comment-96554 Interesting response and dialogue going on here. I'd have to agree with Eva's first comment that the article does show the "vagabond" as a Messianic-type figure. While the life vision of some may be to stay a traveling vagabond, many others would not find this existence fulfilling. "The vagabond traveler represents a higher kind of responsibility – one who is more in touch with reality and the true nature of the Universe," - with this I'd have to disagree. Just because you have aspirations and career goals does not mean you are out of touch. In fact, I'd consider someone running a refugee camp, a teacher training literacy workers, an engineer helping build wells or dams to increase safe driving water supply in a village, or someone running a safe house for trafficked women to be really representing a "higher kind of responsibility." Interesting response and dialogue going on here. I’d have to agree with Eva’s first comment that the article does show the “vagabond” as a Messianic-type figure. While the life vision of some may be to stay a traveling vagabond, many others would not find this existence fulfilling.

“The vagabond traveler represents a higher kind of responsibility – one who is more in touch with reality and the true nature of the Universe,” – with this I’d have to disagree. Just because you have aspirations and career goals does not mean you are out of touch. In fact, I’d consider someone running a refugee camp, a teacher training literacy workers, an engineer helping build wells or dams to increase safe driving water supply in a village, or someone running a safe house for trafficked women to be really representing a “higher kind of responsibility.”

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]]> By: No Body http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2008/06/04/the-tao-of-vagabond-travel/comment-page-1/#comment-95811 No Body Wed, 09 Dec 2009 07:37:26 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=582#comment-95811 Agreed. As I was reading this, I couldn't help but agree in the empty notion of conventional success- I am a student of mathematics and physics, neither of which can differentiate between such a successful system and any other system without being assigned an arbitrary metric with which to measure value. The problem arises when a "vagabond" attaches some sort of moral superiority to his eccentric lifestyle-NO! The same logic that leads to a refutation of "making something out of yourself" should reject any other systematic system of the "good" life. It is not morally superior to go find yourself. Its just another path, another arbitrary path. which you decide is up to you, but the emptiness of one does not imply the fullness of the other. Agreed.
As I was reading this, I couldn’t help but agree in the empty notion of conventional success- I am a student of mathematics and physics, neither of which can differentiate between such a successful system and any other system without being assigned an arbitrary metric with which to measure value.

The problem arises when a “vagabond” attaches some sort of moral superiority to his eccentric lifestyle-NO! The same logic that leads to a refutation of “making something out of yourself” should reject any other systematic system of the “good” life. It is not morally superior to go find yourself.

Its just another path, another arbitrary path.

which you decide is up to you, but the emptiness of one does not imply the fullness of the other.

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]]> By: writerman242 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2008/06/04/the-tao-of-vagabond-travel/comment-page-1/#comment-95342 writerman242 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 02:56:07 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=582#comment-95342 Wow... what a discussion, what a topic. I've travelled all my life, still doing it. But no money right now, so I'm exploring options for getting back on the road, and this whole discussion is getting me moving with a bit more enthusiasm. It reminds me of how easy it is to get stuck in the rut of thinking I can't do anything. It's a habit, nothing more. But, while it is a habit of me, for the majority of humanity, a life of work, family, career, survival and 'success' or whatever, is the norm. And who am I to critisise them for that? Without the factories, the businesses (like the people who build the computers and phones we use to communicate, the camere we use to record our journeys, clothes, planes, trains, passports, money..whatever!) I couldn't be the traveller I've always been, and always will be. In my experience (and I've had a lot of it, beleive me) there are VERY VERY few travellers who are on the road (as in being nomadic) forever. Most are on summer vacations, a one year 'gap year' type trip, or they've taken long service leave from their careers, retired or something else. So, very few will work and then travel, work some more then travel again, on and on. Even people who groove on Matador fit into all kinds of travelling categories. Only a small number of them will be able or willing to travel as their long term lifestyle. And isn't that a good thing? Wow… what a discussion, what a topic. I’ve travelled all my life, still doing it. But no money right now, so I’m exploring options for getting back on the road, and this whole discussion is getting me moving with a bit more enthusiasm. It reminds me of how easy it is to get stuck in the rut of thinking I can’t do anything. It’s a habit, nothing more.
But, while it is a habit of me, for the majority of humanity, a life of work, family, career, survival and ’success’ or whatever, is the norm. And who am I to critisise them for that? Without the factories, the businesses (like the people who build the computers and phones we use to communicate, the camere we use to record our journeys, clothes, planes, trains, passports, money..whatever!) I couldn’t be the traveller I’ve always been, and always will be.
In my experience (and I’ve had a lot of it, beleive me) there are VERY VERY few travellers who are on the road (as in being nomadic) forever. Most are on summer vacations, a one year ‘gap year’ type trip, or they’ve taken long service leave from their careers, retired or something else. So, very few will work and then travel, work some more then travel again, on and on. Even people who groove on Matador fit into all kinds of travelling categories. Only a small number of them will be able or willing to travel as their long term lifestyle.
And isn’t that a good thing?

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]]> By: Mo in Berlin http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2008/06/04/the-tao-of-vagabond-travel/comment-page-1/#comment-92308 Mo in Berlin Fri, 19 Jun 2009 09:23:35 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=582#comment-92308 Thanks for a great article. Questioning conventional "success" is always a wonderful thing to do. It lets us take the road less travelled. In my my 48 years of life following that question has taken me to a life in five countries so I think I qualify. The great news is that we live in a time where science provides us with real answers about what success means. Just expand your time and space context to included the whole universe and it's clear we live in an evolving universe that seems driven to become ever more complex and ever more (may I say) beautiful. So the answer to the question of "success" is simply whether we are giving all that we have to develop. Because if we truly push our own boundaries then we also push the boundaries of what's possible for the universe, as expressed in human form. WDYT? Best....... Mo in Berlin Thanks for a great article.

Questioning conventional “success” is always a wonderful thing to do. It lets us take the road less travelled. In my my 48 years of life following that question has taken me to a life in five countries so I think I qualify.

The great news is that we live in a time where science provides us with real answers about what success means. Just expand your time and space context to included the whole universe and it’s clear we live in an evolving universe that seems driven to become ever more complex and ever more (may I say) beautiful.
So the answer to the question of “success” is simply whether we are giving all that we have to develop. Because if we truly push our own boundaries then we also push the boundaries of what’s possible for the universe, as expressed in human form.

WDYT?
Best…….
Mo in Berlin

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]]> By: Fran http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2008/06/04/the-tao-of-vagabond-travel/comment-page-1/#comment-91823 Fran Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:11:26 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=582#comment-91823 Thank you Thank you Thank you for this article. This is the struggle I find myself in now...the "what will people think" if I drop most or all of the external trappings of so-called happiness for the chance at internal happiness. To travel, to explore, to see what's out there....these are the things I crave. This does not mean my past years as an office worker dragged down by politics and personalities have been wasted. It taught me what I don't want and to follow my inner aspirations vs societal norms. Thank you Thank you Thank you for this article. This is the struggle I find myself in now…the “what will people think” if I drop most or all of the external trappings of so-called happiness for the chance at internal happiness. To travel, to explore, to see what’s out there….these are the things I crave. This does not mean my past years as an office worker dragged down by politics and personalities have been wasted. It taught me what I don’t want and to follow my inner aspirations vs societal norms.

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]]> By: Shikha http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2008/06/04/the-tao-of-vagabond-travel/comment-page-1/#comment-91259 Shikha Wed, 13 May 2009 15:38:10 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=582#comment-91259 This was an amazing article! It really spoke to me. Thank you for bringing up everything that I have been thinking about for a while. Thanks so much! This was an amazing article! It really spoke to me. Thank you for bringing up everything that I have been thinking about for a while. Thanks so much!

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]]> By: Blakes http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2008/06/04/the-tao-of-vagabond-travel/comment-page-1/#comment-85261 Blakes Sun, 22 Feb 2009 02:35:46 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=582#comment-85261 And yepp, there it goes. You missed the point. And yepp, there it goes. You missed the point.

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]]> By: Hazardous Pioneers http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2008/06/04/the-tao-of-vagabond-travel/comment-page-1/#comment-85091 Hazardous Pioneers Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:46:25 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=582#comment-85091 That was a rad article, I almost can't believe it, as just this morning, I made a post on my own blog talking about so much that you mention here! So much so, that I'm going to add a post above it now, linking everyone to this article, to help clarify just what i was trying to say! Nice one, thanks! Hazardous Pioneers dot blogspot dot com That was a rad article, I almost can't believe it, as just this morning, I made a post on my own blog talking about so much that you mention here! So much so, that I'm going to add a post above it now, linking everyone to this article, to help clarify just what i was trying to say!
Nice one, thanks!
Hazardous Pioneers dot blogspot dot com

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]]> By: Education http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2008/06/04/the-tao-of-vagabond-travel/comment-page-1/#comment-84564 Education Sat, 14 Feb 2009 11:31:52 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=582#comment-84564 It's all told in toto farcical that I should airing across your scoop again Tim's today. I'm currently force the midst of plan the preference of, seal I build grad ground besides dry run on to motivate a works in that myself, or obtain I buildup some connection put away to travel, asset myself, postulate an adventure, etc. That video was an accurate masterpiece. Cheers to you! It's all told in toto farcical that I should airing across your scoop again Tim's today. I'm currently force the midst of plan the preference of, seal I build grad ground besides dry run on to motivate a works
in that myself, or obtain I buildup some connection put away to travel, asset myself, postulate an adventure, etc. That video was an accurate masterpiece. Cheers to you!

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]]> By: jp is my name. http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2008/06/04/the-tao-of-vagabond-travel/comment-page-1/#comment-83971 jp is my name. Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:19:34 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=582#comment-83971 opinions opinions. everyone has a right to there own. opinions opinions. everyone has a right to there own.

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