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		<title>By: Picks of the Week: Update from Zimbabwe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Picks of the Week: Update from Zimbabwe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is only one in an elite (ha) group of infamously repressive regimes. For a broader view, check out 6 Ways To Avoid Aiding Repressive Governments, or join the Matador forum discussion: &#8216;Should You Boycott Repressive [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is only one in an elite (ha) group of infamously repressive regimes. For a broader view, check out 6 Ways To Avoid Aiding Repressive Governments, or join the Matador forum discussion: &#8216;Should You Boycott Repressive [...]
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting forum with alot of interesting angles. The steps listed in the article are definitely useful and do open lighter doors in some of these hotspots.
In the end leaving a people and a country in isolation does work agains a move forward in the right direction, however slow and grueling it may be.

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting forum with alot of interesting angles. The steps listed in the article are definitely useful and do open lighter doors in some of these hotspots.<br />
In the end leaving a people and a country in isolation does work agains a move forward in the right direction, however slow and grueling it may be.</p>
<p>Cheers
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		<title>By: Nomadic Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nomadic Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beth,

I had no colonial attitude in mind when I said that. I just meant that we should treat the locals with respect, like you said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beth,</p>
<p>I had no colonial attitude in mind when I said that. I just meant that we should treat the locals with respect, like you said.
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		<title>By: Valentina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valentina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, 

Thanks for this article. I experienced Myanmar first hand. We were a fairly large group of documentary photographers and when we got to Yangon&#039;s airport, a &quot;policeman&quot; spotted our Motorola radios (those small cheap ones, we use them to communicate when working) and had us &quot;detained&quot; at the airport for two hours, until they finally agreed to keep the radios at the airport and give them back when we returned to Cambodia. When they found out we were photographers, they wanted to keep our cameras, too. If that happened, we were ready to take a plane back. There was no point for a photo group to stay w/o our work tools. They finally understood this and let us in. 

The interesting thing is that, once in Yangon and Bagan, things were way more relaxed, and we didn&#039;t have any other problems, not even while openly photographing on the streets. 

For some people this was a shocking experience. That is why articles like these are so useful when it comes to researching the country you&#039;re traveling to. Someone said that in Cuba, tourists are treated like kings and that Cuban government goes to the point of being very permissive with foreigners. I don&#039;t know about this because I&#039;ve never been there and I&#039;m not planning to go for now.

Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, </p>
<p>Thanks for this article. I experienced Myanmar first hand. We were a fairly large group of documentary photographers and when we got to Yangon&#8217;s airport, a &#8220;policeman&#8221; spotted our Motorola radios (those small cheap ones, we use them to communicate when working) and had us &#8220;detained&#8221; at the airport for two hours, until they finally agreed to keep the radios at the airport and give them back when we returned to Cambodia. When they found out we were photographers, they wanted to keep our cameras, too. If that happened, we were ready to take a plane back. There was no point for a photo group to stay w/o our work tools. They finally understood this and let us in. </p>
<p>The interesting thing is that, once in Yangon and Bagan, things were way more relaxed, and we didn&#8217;t have any other problems, not even while openly photographing on the streets. </p>
<p>For some people this was a shocking experience. That is why articles like these are so useful when it comes to researching the country you&#8217;re traveling to. Someone said that in Cuba, tourists are treated like kings and that Cuban government goes to the point of being very permissive with foreigners. I don&#8217;t know about this because I&#8217;ve never been there and I&#8217;m not planning to go for now.</p>
<p>Thanks again!
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Shona hit the proverbial nail on the head with her comment about learning, not teaching. As someone who has worked in the tourism industry, I can safely say that nothing turns you off faster than someone who thinks your country and way of life is inferior to their own -- it puts you in a defensive position where you feel you have to justify your actions or stick up for your country (or sometimes just agree -- because the &quot;customer is always right&quot;).  

On the other hand, it&#039;s easy to warm up to guests who want to know more about your city/country and who are excited to experience new things. Attitude is everything. It&#039;s not just about &quot;traveller&quot; versus &quot;local&quot; distinctions... It&#039;s just good interpersonal skills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Shona hit the proverbial nail on the head with her comment about learning, not teaching. As someone who has worked in the tourism industry, I can safely say that nothing turns you off faster than someone who thinks your country and way of life is inferior to their own &#8212; it puts you in a defensive position where you feel you have to justify your actions or stick up for your country (or sometimes just agree &#8212; because the &#8220;customer is always right&#8221;).  </p>
<p>On the other hand, it&#8217;s easy to warm up to guests who want to know more about your city/country and who are excited to experience new things. Attitude is everything. It&#8217;s not just about &#8220;traveller&#8221; versus &#8220;local&#8221; distinctions&#8230; It&#8217;s just good interpersonal skills.
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Treat the natives well&quot;?

Sure, no colonialist attitude here! Yes, by all means, we should treat people with courtesy and respect wherever we travel, but can we drop the &quot;us&quot; versus &quot;them&quot; labels?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Treat the natives well&#8221;?</p>
<p>Sure, no colonialist attitude here! Yes, by all means, we should treat people with courtesy and respect wherever we travel, but can we drop the &#8220;us&#8221; versus &#8220;them&#8221; labels?
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		<title>By: Shona</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points, Matt. I agree with what you&#039;re saying in response to my comments; I just don&#039;t think it came out quite so clearly in the post. 

Forgive me if it sounded like I was trashing your post- it&#039;s just important to me that people keep an open mind when they  go to another country and culture, and the best way is to approach it with the attitude of learning, NOT teaching.... Because it&#039;s oh-so-easy to be patronising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points, Matt. I agree with what you&#8217;re saying in response to my comments; I just don&#8217;t think it came out quite so clearly in the post. </p>
<p>Forgive me if it sounded like I was trashing your post- it&#8217;s just important to me that people keep an open mind when they  go to another country and culture, and the best way is to approach it with the attitude of learning, NOT teaching&#8230;. Because it&#8217;s oh-so-easy to be patronising.
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		<title>By: Nomadic Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nomadic Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shona-

Thanks for the comment. You said: &quot;itâ€™s not all about whatâ€™s in the news. Yeah, bad government- but the people are not so bad. Donâ€™t generalise.&quot;

This was my point. The governments are bad but the people are not and that we should go to these countries because the people are good and not punish them because their government is bad.  At the end, I emphasize that point

I don&#039;t see what is bad about treating the natives well. Your comment about the obnoxious American tourists highlights what happens when you don&#039;t want the negative perceptions that can come out of that.  Most of these governments paint a bad picture of foreigners. Any listen to what Bob says and you can see he that. So why not counter that propaganda and kill it with kindness?  Show the natives we aren&#039;t bad and we respect your local customs? 

You could apply some of what I said to say italy. Respect the local customs. Treating the locals with respect does wonders towards promoting a global human community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shona-</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment. You said: &#8220;itâ€™s not all about whatâ€™s in the news. Yeah, bad government- but the people are not so bad. Donâ€™t generalise.&#8221;</p>
<p>This was my point. The governments are bad but the people are not and that we should go to these countries because the people are good and not punish them because their government is bad.  At the end, I emphasize that point</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see what is bad about treating the natives well. Your comment about the obnoxious American tourists highlights what happens when you don&#8217;t want the negative perceptions that can come out of that.  Most of these governments paint a bad picture of foreigners. Any listen to what Bob says and you can see he that. So why not counter that propaganda and kill it with kindness?  Show the natives we aren&#8217;t bad and we respect your local customs? </p>
<p>You could apply some of what I said to say italy. Respect the local customs. Treating the locals with respect does wonders towards promoting a global human community.
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		<title>By: Shona</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmm... I don&#039;t know, personally I thought this post sounded a little narrow-minded.... It sort of sounds like that &quot;treat the natives well&quot; kind of approach. (which is why I like Julie&#039;s comment). While I applaud parts of the post- like volunteer tourism- I think the rest is not the approach one should take if one really wants to learn about a country and its people. Come here with an attitude like that, and people will treat you like That Idiot Foreigner. You WILL be taken for a ride.

Love thy neighbour? Lol.. that reminds me of the obnoxious American tourists I met in Australia. They went out of their way to tell the Aussies that they had stuff just like in the States- no, BETTER actually. So I guess that&#039;s a good point.

Am curious: the points you make, can you apply them to a trip to, say, Italy? Because etiquette must be the same wherever you go, right?

And when you say Zimbabwe is not letting in tourists- do you mean WHITE tourists? cos I know Bob is not keen on white people in general. I see a few tourists  around though, white and otherwise :) By the way, I know an American operator who has settled here- he&#039;s an independent guy, and likes the country enough to tell you, it&#039;s not all about what&#039;s in the news. Yeah, bad government- but the people are not so bad. Don&#039;t generalise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm&#8230; I don&#8217;t know, personally I thought this post sounded a little narrow-minded&#8230;. It sort of sounds like that &#8220;treat the natives well&#8221; kind of approach. (which is why I like Julie&#8217;s comment). While I applaud parts of the post- like volunteer tourism- I think the rest is not the approach one should take if one really wants to learn about a country and its people. Come here with an attitude like that, and people will treat you like That Idiot Foreigner. You WILL be taken for a ride.</p>
<p>Love thy neighbour? Lol.. that reminds me of the obnoxious American tourists I met in Australia. They went out of their way to tell the Aussies that they had stuff just like in the States- no, BETTER actually. So I guess that&#8217;s a good point.</p>
<p>Am curious: the points you make, can you apply them to a trip to, say, Italy? Because etiquette must be the same wherever you go, right?</p>
<p>And when you say Zimbabwe is not letting in tourists- do you mean WHITE tourists? cos I know Bob is not keen on white people in general. I see a few tourists  around though, white and otherwise <img src='http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  By the way, I know an American operator who has settled here- he&#8217;s an independent guy, and likes the country enough to tell you, it&#8217;s not all about what&#8217;s in the news. Yeah, bad government- but the people are not so bad. Don&#8217;t generalise.
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		<title>By: Daniel Harbecke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Harbecke</dc:creator>
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		<description>And STILL you wear your flag with pride...  (Shudder)  ;)</description>
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