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		<title>By: Justruss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justruss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am back in the States, have seen the ad, and do not understand the complaint.  

It&#039;s a burger ad.  Please, considering the company is not engaged in ageisim ((Where&quot;s the beef?) nor is it exploiting the chosen test subjects, 

I understand you are personally connected to the Romaniain people featured in the ad, so your angst is understood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am back in the States, have seen the ad, and do not understand the complaint.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a burger ad.  Please, considering the company is not engaged in ageisim ((Where&#8221;s the beef?) nor is it exploiting the chosen test subjects, </p>
<p>I understand you are personally connected to the Romaniain people featured in the ad, so your angst is understood.
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		<title>By: Lyjobu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyjobu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 09:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, just wow.

It seems that most everyone commenting has missed the point.

It&#039;s a simple taste test.  The Brits (BK is a UK co., the Celticly named McDonald&#039;s is the American one) simply went to find some people w/o preconceived notions of how a burger &#039;should&#039; taste.  There is no commentary on these cultures in the ads.  It is simply:  which do you (as someone who&#039;s had neither) prefer, A or B?  It&#039;s analogous to a nuoc mam company going to Kansas (or to make a better metaphor, Kent) to see whether they or the competition make a &#039;better&#039; fish sauce to the uneducated palate.

You&#039;ll notice that BK wisely didn&#039;t throw some ground beef on a backyard grill for a third option, as that would be A. preferable to either of those choices and B. more indicative of how Americans actually eat burgers a plurality of the time.

Frankly (most of) the above comments are more indicative of &#039;liberal white man&#039;s burden guilt&#039; than they are a reflection on the ad campaign and/or its effects.  No wonder the damn neo-cons were able to steal our country for 8 horrible years.

***Fair disclosure - both the Whopper and the Big Mac are disgusting to me due to the unidentifiable putrid sauces on them.  To be perfectly honest, I DO probably prefer the  McD double cheeseburger slightly (but statistically irrelevantly) to the BK double cheeseburger; or to paraphrase Freud, sometimes a greasy road trip meal is just a greasy road trip meal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, just wow.</p>
<p>It seems that most everyone commenting has missed the point.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a simple taste test.  The Brits (BK is a UK co., the Celticly named McDonald&#8217;s is the American one) simply went to find some people w/o preconceived notions of how a burger &#8217;should&#8217; taste.  There is no commentary on these cultures in the ads.  It is simply:  which do you (as someone who&#8217;s had neither) prefer, A or B?  It&#8217;s analogous to a nuoc mam company going to Kansas (or to make a better metaphor, Kent) to see whether they or the competition make a &#8216;better&#8217; fish sauce to the uneducated palate.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll notice that BK wisely didn&#8217;t throw some ground beef on a backyard grill for a third option, as that would be A. preferable to either of those choices and B. more indicative of how Americans actually eat burgers a plurality of the time.</p>
<p>Frankly (most of) the above comments are more indicative of &#8216;liberal white man&#8217;s burden guilt&#8217; than they are a reflection on the ad campaign and/or its effects.  No wonder the damn neo-cons were able to steal our country for 8 horrible years.</p>
<p>***Fair disclosure &#8211; both the Whopper and the Big Mac are disgusting to me due to the unidentifiable putrid sauces on them.  To be perfectly honest, I DO probably prefer the  McD double cheeseburger slightly (but statistically irrelevantly) to the BK double cheeseburger; or to paraphrase Freud, sometimes a greasy road trip meal is just a greasy road trip meal.
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		<title>By: Davin Ellicson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davin Ellicson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 05:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justruss: 
 
Well, see the video. I have actually lived with the Romanian peasants in the video (same village) and therefore it was really shocking to see what BK did. </description>
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<p>Well, see the video. I have actually lived with the Romanian peasants in the video (same village) and therefore it was really shocking to see what BK did.
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		<title>By: Justruss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justruss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 03:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank God the Czechs aren&#039;t sending their food!  I had a traditional Czech meal in Prague a few nights ago and thought about asking the waiter if he knew if the restaurant had a defibrillator as I could feel my coronary arteries closing with each unctuous bite.  I&#039;m confident I&#039;ll not sprout any tumors as result of the meal, though.  
 
Seriously, I don&#039;t totally disagree with anything written here except for the somewhat extreme tone.    
 
Perhaps I am not qualified to comment at all as I still haven&#039;t seen the ad.  I&#039;m in Saudi again and doubt I&#039;ll see it anytime soon. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank God the Czechs aren&#039;t sending their food!  I had a traditional Czech meal in Prague a few nights ago and thought about asking the waiter if he knew if the restaurant had a defibrillator as I could feel my coronary arteries closing with each unctuous bite.  I&#039;m confident I&#039;ll not sprout any tumors as result of the meal, though.  </p>
<p>Seriously, I don&#039;t totally disagree with anything written here except for the somewhat extreme tone.    </p>
<p>Perhaps I am not qualified to comment at all as I still haven&#039;t seen the ad.  I&#039;m in Saudi again and doubt I&#039;ll see it anytime soon.
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 05:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>also, i read both the letters from the Minnesotan Hmong community and Burger King. The Hmong community was angry that Burger King mentioned Chiang Mai, because Chiang Mai is a fairly large city that already has Burger Kings, where Hmong People are employed. It turned out to be a misunderstanding, because Chiang Mai was where the testing took place, but the test subjects were from a more remote area. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also, i read both the letters from the Minnesotan Hmong community and Burger King. The Hmong community was angry that Burger King mentioned Chiang Mai, because Chiang Mai is a fairly large city that already has Burger Kings, where Hmong People are employed. It turned out to be a misunderstanding, because Chiang Mai was where the testing took place, but the test subjects were from a more remote area.
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 05:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Burger King and its ilk will be the ultimate arbiters of intercultural exchange, foisting American culture on the world and the world&#8217;s culture on us. It should be their duty to make sure it&#8217;s done in a way that is graceful, respectful and productive.&quot; Why? Even if Burger King is prevalent or even iconic of globalization, it&#039;s not necessarily &quot;the ultimate arbiter of intercultural exchange.&quot;  Why should advertisements need to be &quot;graceful, respectful and productive&quot;? They&#039;re not Green Peace or anything, they&#039;re just trying to sell burgers. Everyone who sees that implicitly understands that as the motive. Sure some elementary associations are created by advertisements, but they&#039;re far too simple a scapegoat.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Burger King and its ilk will be the ultimate arbiters of intercultural exchange, foisting American culture on the world and the world&rsquo;s culture on us. It should be their duty to make sure it&rsquo;s done in a way that is graceful, respectful and productive.&quot; Why? Even if Burger King is prevalent or even iconic of globalization, it&#039;s not necessarily &quot;the ultimate arbiter of intercultural exchange.&quot;  Why should advertisements need to be &quot;graceful, respectful and productive&quot;? They&#039;re not Green Peace or anything, they&#039;re just trying to sell burgers. Everyone who sees that implicitly understands that as the motive. Sure some elementary associations are created by advertisements, but they&#039;re far too simple a scapegoat.
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		<title>By: Davin Ellicson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davin Ellicson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 07:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justruss: 
 
I can see where you are coming from, but the ad involves the worst of American culture (unhealthy, cancer causing fast food) being brought to some of the most traditional people in the world. It is an extreme situation. Of course American has much to offer the world generally, but in this case Burger King is way out of line.  </description>
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<p>I can see where you are coming from, but the ad involves the worst of American culture (unhealthy, cancer causing fast food) being brought to some of the most traditional people in the world. It is an extreme situation. Of course American has much to offer the world generally, but in this case Burger King is way out of line.
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		<title>By: DHarbecke</title>
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		<dc:creator>DHarbecke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 05:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If these people are &quot;Whopper Virgins,&quot; does that make me a burger slut?  I think it does - and I like it MY way, baby... 
 
[Insert your own fast-food innuendos here] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If these people are &quot;Whopper Virgins,&quot; does that make me a burger slut?  I think it does &#8211; and I like it MY way, baby&#8230; </p>
<p>[Insert your own fast-food innuendos here]
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		<title>By: Justruss</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, there may be some level of hubris here. Though I think is is becoming quite popular to characterize anything American as being exploitive of others. To a certain extent, I can agree, but not usually.  
 
I recall a recent article here regarding the growing popularity of the English language as being inappropriate as if there existed some imperialistic, linguistic conspiricy. I travel quite extensively. Just last week in Spain a taxi driver asked me to speak to her in English so she could practice. Depending on the circumstance, people are open to the idea of Americans and welcome the interaction. Traveling is not so one sided as to be benefit solely the traveler.  
 
I just spoke to my wife who was born in (and more recently emigrated to the Czech Republic from) Tashkent and asked her what she thought of the concept - she&#039;s never had a Whopper by the way. She thought it was a good idea.  
 
Though I haven&#039;t seen the commercial, it is not difficult for me to appreciate the idea that Burger King may have brought a little foreign culture to Americans by airing this commercial.  
 
Good idea. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, there may be some level of hubris here. Though I think is is becoming quite popular to characterize anything American as being exploitive of others. To a certain extent, I can agree, but not usually.  </p>
<p>I recall a recent article here regarding the growing popularity of the English language as being inappropriate as if there existed some imperialistic, linguistic conspiricy. I travel quite extensively. Just last week in Spain a taxi driver asked me to speak to her in English so she could practice. Depending on the circumstance, people are open to the idea of Americans and welcome the interaction. Traveling is not so one sided as to be benefit solely the traveler.  </p>
<p>I just spoke to my wife who was born in (and more recently emigrated to the Czech Republic from) Tashkent and asked her what she thought of the concept &#8211; she&#39;s never had a Whopper by the way. She thought it was a good idea.  </p>
<p>Though I haven&#39;t seen the commercial, it is not difficult for me to appreciate the idea that Burger King may have brought a little foreign culture to Americans by airing this commercial.  </p>
<p>Good idea.
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		<title>By: DHarbecke</title>
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		<description>This is true. According to my buddy who lives in Romania, the hats are specific to the northern part of the country. However, these clothes aren&#039;t indicative of an average Romanian citizen. If you put some guy in a tuxedo on TV and labeled him &quot;an average American,&quot; it wouldn&#039;t be accurate.  
 
What&#039;s going on here is the same schtick as Borat: the real joke is on us, because most of TV Land doesn&#039;t know an average Romanian (or Hmong, etc.) from a bar of soap. However, it also involves steamrollering over a few of &quot;unsophisticated&quot; in the name of entertainment, and that&#039;s what&#039;s distasteful about this. It&#039;s just another case of putting someone in the televised zoo so we can throw peanuts through the bars. Demeaning. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is true. According to my buddy who lives in Romania, the hats are specific to the northern part of the country. However, these clothes aren&#039;t indicative of an average Romanian citizen. If you put some guy in a tuxedo on TV and labeled him &quot;an average American,&quot; it wouldn&#039;t be accurate.  </p>
<p>What&#039;s going on here is the same schtick as Borat: the real joke is on us, because most of TV Land doesn&#039;t know an average Romanian (or Hmong, etc.) from a bar of soap. However, it also involves steamrollering over a few of &quot;unsophisticated&quot; in the name of entertainment, and that&#039;s what&#039;s distasteful about this. It&#039;s just another case of putting someone in the televised zoo so we can throw peanuts through the bars. Demeaning.
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