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		<title>By: eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 06:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think part of what Troy said is true. There is a culture of calling people &quot;mi amor&quot; in Chile (which I have called home for five plus years), and if the lady from the fresh market calls me &quot;mi amor&quot; it&#039;s sweet, and if someone calls me &quot;preciosa&quot; on the street, it irritates the bewhosis out of me. I have the advantage of traveling everywhere by bike, and often when called out to, if it&#039;s a compliment, I will shout back, &quot;Sí, sé&quot; (Yeah, I know). It&#039;s taking back my little cachito (piece) of power, and I will not be told that I can&#039;t do it. I wouldn&#039;t necessarily recommend it to anyone else, but I know my audience, and I know that Chileans are much more bark than bite, that confrontations are rare and, well, I could go on and on.

I think it&#039;s more important to do what keeps you safe and doesn&#039;t incite violence than it is to &quot;stay silent, no matter what.&quot; On the other hand, I&#039;m sure it&#039;s not a good idea to lose your cool when you are outnumbered, or to get into an altercation of any kind with anyone. 

This is a grassroots problem, where men think it&#039;s okay to call out to women because alot of women in the cultures in question act like it&#039;s normal, or even expect it or (yes, even) like it. I enjoyed the article because it brings up an important point, but I don&#039;t think that there&#039;s a one-size fits all solution to piropos (flirtatious) comments on the street. And I do distinguish between the benign and the profane. I run for the hills with the latter, and make an educated decision with the former. 

I&#039;ll be interested to see what others have to say on the topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think part of what Troy said is true. There is a culture of calling people &#8220;mi amor&#8221; in Chile (which I have called home for five plus years), and if the lady from the fresh market calls me &#8220;mi amor&#8221; it&#8217;s sweet, and if someone calls me &#8220;preciosa&#8221; on the street, it irritates the bewhosis out of me. I have the advantage of traveling everywhere by bike, and often when called out to, if it&#8217;s a compliment, I will shout back, &#8220;Sí, sé&#8221; (Yeah, I know). It&#8217;s taking back my little cachito (piece) of power, and I will not be told that I can&#8217;t do it. I wouldn&#8217;t necessarily recommend it to anyone else, but I know my audience, and I know that Chileans are much more bark than bite, that confrontations are rare and, well, I could go on and on.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s more important to do what keeps you safe and doesn&#8217;t incite violence than it is to &#8220;stay silent, no matter what.&#8221; On the other hand, I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s not a good idea to lose your cool when you are outnumbered, or to get into an altercation of any kind with anyone. </p>
<p>This is a grassroots problem, where men think it&#8217;s okay to call out to women because alot of women in the cultures in question act like it&#8217;s normal, or even expect it or (yes, even) like it. I enjoyed the article because it brings up an important point, but I don&#8217;t think that there&#8217;s a one-size fits all solution to piropos (flirtatious) comments on the street. And I do distinguish between the benign and the profane. I run for the hills with the latter, and make an educated decision with the former. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be interested to see what others have to say on the topic.
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 18:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure to be flogged for posting this, but I do think that it is worth saying. Where are rape rates higher? North America or South America? By posing this question I am in no way condoning such behaviour, but I also don&#039;t think that it is such a black and white, cut and dry issue.

I cannot say from experience, as I don&#039;t live in S.America though have spent some time there and speak the language well, but I do live in Spain...a place that is also considered by many a macho, sexist country. That said, the rates of sexual violence here are far below those in North America. Ask a woman in N.America if she or someone close to her has been assaulted and the overwhelming answer is yes, whereas over here in Spain it would be the exact opposite. This is not saying it doesn&#039;t exist, nor is it saying that things cannot be improved...but by failing to take into consideration that there are indeed cultural differences, you could fail into the trap that you mention, that of ranting and railing and sounding culturally superior.

The language itself and the patterns of speech used have to be taken into account too. How often do you hear grandmothers, aunts and even strangers in the street saying &quot;oye que guapa estas hoy&quot;...(you look beautiful today). Is this non-threatening simply because it is coming from females?

I can predict the rush of negative comments to what I have said, but all I want to point out is that a deeper cultural lens needs to be used when looking at issues like this. Imagine the picture someone would have of the U.S if their only reference point was rap videos?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure to be flogged for posting this, but I do think that it is worth saying. Where are rape rates higher? North America or South America? By posing this question I am in no way condoning such behaviour, but I also don&#8217;t think that it is such a black and white, cut and dry issue.</p>
<p>I cannot say from experience, as I don&#8217;t live in S.America though have spent some time there and speak the language well, but I do live in Spain&#8230;a place that is also considered by many a macho, sexist country. That said, the rates of sexual violence here are far below those in North America. Ask a woman in N.America if she or someone close to her has been assaulted and the overwhelming answer is yes, whereas over here in Spain it would be the exact opposite. This is not saying it doesn&#8217;t exist, nor is it saying that things cannot be improved&#8230;but by failing to take into consideration that there are indeed cultural differences, you could fail into the trap that you mention, that of ranting and railing and sounding culturally superior.</p>
<p>The language itself and the patterns of speech used have to be taken into account too. How often do you hear grandmothers, aunts and even strangers in the street saying &#8220;oye que guapa estas hoy&#8221;&#8230;(you look beautiful today). Is this non-threatening simply because it is coming from females?</p>
<p>I can predict the rush of negative comments to what I have said, but all I want to point out is that a deeper cultural lens needs to be used when looking at issues like this. Imagine the picture someone would have of the U.S if their only reference point was rap videos?
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		<title>By: Eva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 03:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kiki -- I don&#039;t think Sarah is talking about guys simply saying &quot;good morning&quot; in this article... 

As far as flattery goes, I think men need to understand that what they think of as flattery doesn&#039;t necessarily feel that way -- this sounds an awful lot like the old &quot;I wasn&#039;t being racist, I was trying to make a joke&quot; line. People need to take responsibility for how their actions come across. Do the five guys in the car that slow down to hiss at me while I&#039;m walking on a dark street late at night only mean to flatter me? Maybe. That doesn&#039;t change the fact that I&#039;m planning six different directions to run if they stop the car. They need to realize their actions create real fear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kiki &#8212; I don&#8217;t think Sarah is talking about guys simply saying &#8220;good morning&#8221; in this article&#8230; </p>
<p>As far as flattery goes, I think men need to understand that what they think of as flattery doesn&#8217;t necessarily feel that way &#8212; this sounds an awful lot like the old &#8220;I wasn&#8217;t being racist, I was trying to make a joke&#8221; line. People need to take responsibility for how their actions come across. Do the five guys in the car that slow down to hiss at me while I&#8217;m walking on a dark street late at night only mean to flatter me? Maybe. That doesn&#8217;t change the fact that I&#8217;m planning six different directions to run if they stop the car. They need to realize their actions create real fear.
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		<title>By: kiki</title>
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		<dc:creator>kiki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And how do you handle  it in your home town?  That cat calls and the like?  I think there is a HUGE difference between &quot;hey mami, good morning&quot;, a cat hiss, and a sexual threat.  

While we DO need to acknowledge that not all cat calls are just flattery, we ALSO need to realize that sometimes that is EXACTLY what it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And how do you handle  it in your home town?  That cat calls and the like?  I think there is a HUGE difference between &#8220;hey mami, good morning&#8221;, a cat hiss, and a sexual threat.  </p>
<p>While we DO need to acknowledge that not all cat calls are just flattery, we ALSO need to realize that sometimes that is EXACTLY what it is.
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 06:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article - having spent two years in latin america I&#039;ve dealt with my fair share of machismo. Though I&#039;ve lost my cool several times I definitely agree the best solution is not react at all. And two, talk about it with the locals. I&#039;m always shocked when I talk to my guy friends about this and they tell me that they genuinely believe that women like the cat calls and inappropriate comments... help everyone out by clearing up this misconception.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article &#8211; having spent two years in latin america I&#039;ve dealt with my fair share of machismo. Though I&#039;ve lost my cool several times I definitely agree the best solution is not react at all. And two, talk about it with the locals. I&#039;m always shocked when I talk to my guy friends about this and they tell me that they genuinely believe that women like the cat calls and inappropriate comments&#8230; help everyone out by clearing up this misconception.
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was exactly what I needed to read today! I&#039;m traveling in C.A. right now, and it&#039;s nice to know that I&#039;m not alone. Some days, it takes all of my strength to ignore the men and keep walking--particularly when men say incredibly rude things in English (don&#039;t know why that feels worse). I&#039;m in Guatemala right now, where the comments are few and far between--a much-needed respite! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was exactly what I needed to read today! I&#039;m traveling in C.A. right now, and it&#039;s nice to know that I&#039;m not alone. Some days, it takes all of my strength to ignore the men and keep walking&#8211;particularly when men say incredibly rude things in English (don&#039;t know why that feels worse). I&#039;m in Guatemala right now, where the comments are few and far between&#8211;a much-needed respite!
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		<title>By: Kamille</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kamille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 23:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We truly suffer with machismo here in Latin America, but also in the North Hemisphere, where people usually think brazilian women (my case) are cheap or even prostitutes... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We truly suffer with machismo here in Latin America, but also in the North Hemisphere, where people usually think brazilian women (my case) are cheap or even prostitutes&#8230;
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		<title>By: Eva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 22:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Sarah. 
 
And a perfect, powerful photo at the top, too! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Sarah. </p>
<p>And a perfect, powerful photo at the top, too!
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		<title>By: Ernesto Machado</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ernesto Machado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the key: &quot;Please, for the sake of women in Latin America, do not give the impression that this type of behavior is okay or is an acceptable way to interact with women.&quot; Men seem to consider machismo a sport here in South America, and female travelers that smile at machismo are not only making it worse for the local women but also for all other foreign females that travel in the area in the future. But I also agree that: &quot;Don&#8217;t let this article dissuade you from visiting Latin America.&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the key: &quot;Please, for the sake of women in Latin America, do not give the impression that this type of behavior is okay or is an acceptable way to interact with women.&quot; Men seem to consider machismo a sport here in South America, and female travelers that smile at machismo are not only making it worse for the local women but also for all other foreign females that travel in the area in the future. But I also agree that: &quot;Don&rsquo;t let this article dissuade you from visiting Latin America.&quot;
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