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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 14:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another great perspective, Strawberry, and this conversation keeps evolving. I&#039;ve recently been thinking about it from another angle here in Thailand. I&#039;ve been asked in some places, Oh, have you made an offering/prayed/payed respect to the Buddha at such and such temple? or in the case of Western people getting married to the locals, there is a certain forcing of the culture on the &quot;white&quot; person. I am not into any particular religious belief and sort of like it that way, so I bristle at being instructed to bow here or there or burn this or that. It doesn&#039;t mean anything to me so I can pass it off as politely placating my host, but it occurs to me that for some with dearly held beliefs this can be a HUGE no-no, worshiping idols and all that. In some situations I can see where it is perhaps the VISITOR&#039;S culture that deserves a little respect too. Vegetarians visiting in the bush have trouble trying not to offend the generous host who brought in a grilled monkey as a gift. (Happened to a friend of mine who did Peace Corps in Africa. Like the whole little monkey!) Allergies are usually a good excuse... I&#039;m allergic to... um, primates. Doesn&#039;t work so well for Buddha statues though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great perspective, Strawberry, and this conversation keeps evolving. I&#8217;ve recently been thinking about it from another angle here in Thailand. I&#8217;ve been asked in some places, Oh, have you made an offering/prayed/payed respect to the Buddha at such and such temple? or in the case of Western people getting married to the locals, there is a certain forcing of the culture on the &#8220;white&#8221; person. I am not into any particular religious belief and sort of like it that way, so I bristle at being instructed to bow here or there or burn this or that. It doesn&#8217;t mean anything to me so I can pass it off as politely placating my host, but it occurs to me that for some with dearly held beliefs this can be a HUGE no-no, worshiping idols and all that. In some situations I can see where it is perhaps the VISITOR&#8217;S culture that deserves a little respect too. Vegetarians visiting in the bush have trouble trying not to offend the generous host who brought in a grilled monkey as a gift. (Happened to a friend of mine who did Peace Corps in Africa. Like the whole little monkey!) Allergies are usually a good excuse&#8230; I&#8217;m allergic to&#8230; um, primates. Doesn&#8217;t work so well for Buddha statues though.
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		<title>By: Strawberry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Strawberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 08:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have American Indian ancestry as well, but I look white. Maybe I have a warped persecution complex too or something, but I&#039;ve also experienced the whole white guilt thing. Maybe it started in junior high when I was assaulted by an African American girl who was upset that I was friends with her mixed friend, who was pressured to decide which side of the cafeteria to eat at, as it was totally racially segregated. Or maybe it was from the three year relationship I had with the a full-blooded American Indian who started off history lessons with, &quot;When &#039;you guys&#039; came over here...&quot; Of course, that was when he thought I didn&#039;t have a maternal lineage of Indian blood. Without it, I would have been just pure white, you see. I&#039;m not using these examples to generalize but to illustrate that not every white person, or &quot;white&quot; person for that matter, who says they&#039;ve felt the sting of racism or guilt is a liar or wacked out. It does happen.

That said, I also get frustrated when other light-skinned people give those of us who actually have Indian ancestry- Cherokee in particular- a bad name by prancing around in Indian costumes or selling some bright pink dreamcatcher they made over the weekend while watching Oprah. As a &quot;white&quot; Indian, It&#039;s not easy having to challenge both white people&#039;s and full-bloods&#039; preconceived notions of what it means to be Cherokee. But guess what? Being Indian isn&#039;t easy. Never was and probably never will be. But that doesn&#039;t mean I suddenly &quot;opt out&quot; when it&#039;s uncomfortable. I don&#039;t disregard my European ancestry. But I feel most connected to my Tsalagi roots and want to help preserve the culture and language. Perhaps if the French culture and language were being equally threatened I&#039;d put just as much effort into preserving it.

Anyway, all that is sort of off-topic. Like someone mentioned above, the Japanese, for example, would interpret things differently. In fact, a couple of Japanese friends of mine actually presented me with a yukata for my birthday, which they expect me to wear next summer. So... should I not wear it for fear of offending non-Japanese strangers who might get offended? If my wearing Japanese clothing was considered offensive to the Japanese, I&#039;d be less inclined to wear it, of course. But another point is that the historical relationship between white Americans and Japanese is very different from the one between white Americans and Native Americans. So it might not be the best comparison. 

I think it&#039;s healthy to appreciate the culture of other people, but part of showing respect to another culture is to respect them the way the want to be respected. If my Japanese friends feel respected when I dress up in a yukata, then by golly, let&#039;s have some fun and take lots of pictures. But maybe my American Indian friends don&#039;t interpret me wearing a fake headdress as a sign of respect. Maybe it&#039;s insulting. So why not do a little research and find out how they&#039;d like to be respected? I think that&#039;s part of all of our responsibiilty when we interact with people from other cultures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have American Indian ancestry as well, but I look white. Maybe I have a warped persecution complex too or something, but I&#8217;ve also experienced the whole white guilt thing. Maybe it started in junior high when I was assaulted by an African American girl who was upset that I was friends with her mixed friend, who was pressured to decide which side of the cafeteria to eat at, as it was totally racially segregated. Or maybe it was from the three year relationship I had with the a full-blooded American Indian who started off history lessons with, &#8220;When &#8216;you guys&#8217; came over here&#8230;&#8221; Of course, that was when he thought I didn&#8217;t have a maternal lineage of Indian blood. Without it, I would have been just pure white, you see. I&#8217;m not using these examples to generalize but to illustrate that not every white person, or &#8220;white&#8221; person for that matter, who says they&#8217;ve felt the sting of racism or guilt is a liar or wacked out. It does happen.</p>
<p>That said, I also get frustrated when other light-skinned people give those of us who actually have Indian ancestry- Cherokee in particular- a bad name by prancing around in Indian costumes or selling some bright pink dreamcatcher they made over the weekend while watching Oprah. As a &#8220;white&#8221; Indian, It&#8217;s not easy having to challenge both white people&#8217;s and full-bloods&#8217; preconceived notions of what it means to be Cherokee. But guess what? Being Indian isn&#8217;t easy. Never was and probably never will be. But that doesn&#8217;t mean I suddenly &#8220;opt out&#8221; when it&#8217;s uncomfortable. I don&#8217;t disregard my European ancestry. But I feel most connected to my Tsalagi roots and want to help preserve the culture and language. Perhaps if the French culture and language were being equally threatened I&#8217;d put just as much effort into preserving it.</p>
<p>Anyway, all that is sort of off-topic. Like someone mentioned above, the Japanese, for example, would interpret things differently. In fact, a couple of Japanese friends of mine actually presented me with a yukata for my birthday, which they expect me to wear next summer. So&#8230; should I not wear it for fear of offending non-Japanese strangers who might get offended? If my wearing Japanese clothing was considered offensive to the Japanese, I&#8217;d be less inclined to wear it, of course. But another point is that the historical relationship between white Americans and Japanese is very different from the one between white Americans and Native Americans. So it might not be the best comparison. </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s healthy to appreciate the culture of other people, but part of showing respect to another culture is to respect them the way the want to be respected. If my Japanese friends feel respected when I dress up in a yukata, then by golly, let&#8217;s have some fun and take lots of pictures. But maybe my American Indian friends don&#8217;t interpret me wearing a fake headdress as a sign of respect. Maybe it&#8217;s insulting. So why not do a little research and find out how they&#8217;d like to be respected? I think that&#8217;s part of all of our responsibiilty when we interact with people from other cultures.
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		<title>By: Venus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Venus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the biggest issue comes from permanently adopting another culture and set of beliefs; it comes from temporarily doing so, like a tourist just passing through.  
That&#039;s also where the insult comes in.  &quot;Thanks for the hospitality!  Nope, not staying, just wanted to &#039;go native&#039; for a while!&quot; 
This is how it comes off to other NDN&#039;s.  You&#039;re not embracing our culture, but what you think is our culture and do not settle in to find out the truth.  There are a lot of issues that the Native community faces, but it seems the only dialogues we can start with any regularity are the ones about misconceptions of our spirituality, which is like ordering at a restaurant.  Our culture(s) are not buffets to pick what you do and do not like about them.  &#039;I&#039;ll take the sweat lodge, the ceremonies, the dress, the herbs, and some of the food.  Keep everything else to yourself.&quot;  
I know I&#039;m being harsh, but that&#039;s what it comes off as.  I think if you seek to understand in depth, you won&#039;t question as much your dedication and right to learn about other cultures and participate in them.  You also say, &quot;Look, it&#039;s not just about what&#039;s well-known about your culture.  I want to learn who you are as a people.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the biggest issue comes from permanently adopting another culture and set of beliefs; it comes from temporarily doing so, like a tourist just passing through.<br />
That&#8217;s also where the insult comes in.  &#8220;Thanks for the hospitality!  Nope, not staying, just wanted to &#8216;go native&#8217; for a while!&#8221;<br />
This is how it comes off to other NDN&#8217;s.  You&#8217;re not embracing our culture, but what you think is our culture and do not settle in to find out the truth.  There are a lot of issues that the Native community faces, but it seems the only dialogues we can start with any regularity are the ones about misconceptions of our spirituality, which is like ordering at a restaurant.  Our culture(s) are not buffets to pick what you do and do not like about them.  &#8216;I&#8217;ll take the sweat lodge, the ceremonies, the dress, the herbs, and some of the food.  Keep everything else to yourself.&#8221;<br />
I know I&#8217;m being harsh, but that&#8217;s what it comes off as.  I think if you seek to understand in depth, you won&#8217;t question as much your dedication and right to learn about other cultures and participate in them.  You also say, &#8220;Look, it&#8217;s not just about what&#8217;s well-known about your culture.  I want to learn who you are as a people.&#8221;
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		<title>By: Threespoons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Threespoons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 00:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to work in a small Japanese university that had a nice community atmosphere amongst students. Every year we had exchange students come from China, Sweden, Thailand and the U.S. among others. The year before I left during the big Summertime festival season a huge group of students planned to go out walking round the local festival together. Unbeknownst to the Japanese students, 8 of the female exchange students of various countries went out and bought yukata, the summer kimono, and asked someone how to wear them. 

I was with the Japanese students and we were waiting for the exchange students to show up. OMG when those girls walked up in their yukata and slippers you would not have believed the hooting and hollering from our (usually quite shy) students. They were so excited that the foreigners had done that. The cameras were out in full force and everyone wanted a photo with them. 

My students were saying how honoured they felt that these foreign people would go to the length of making such a gesture. They had no question that the girls had done it as a means to show respect to their host culture. (Turned a lot of boys&#039; heads too, might I add! But that&#039;s another story.). The event also seemed to endear the students to each other as the conversation and the evening seemed to flow happily into the wee hours.

I think, as someone said earlier, it&#039;s all in your motivation. Showing a genuine interest and respect in a culture can come out in these sorts of actions as long as you heart is in the right place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to work in a small Japanese university that had a nice community atmosphere amongst students. Every year we had exchange students come from China, Sweden, Thailand and the U.S. among others. The year before I left during the big Summertime festival season a huge group of students planned to go out walking round the local festival together. Unbeknownst to the Japanese students, 8 of the female exchange students of various countries went out and bought yukata, the summer kimono, and asked someone how to wear them. </p>
<p>I was with the Japanese students and we were waiting for the exchange students to show up. OMG when those girls walked up in their yukata and slippers you would not have believed the hooting and hollering from our (usually quite shy) students. They were so excited that the foreigners had done that. The cameras were out in full force and everyone wanted a photo with them. </p>
<p>My students were saying how honoured they felt that these foreign people would go to the length of making such a gesture. They had no question that the girls had done it as a means to show respect to their host culture. (Turned a lot of boys&#8217; heads too, might I add! But that&#8217;s another story.). The event also seemed to endear the students to each other as the conversation and the evening seemed to flow happily into the wee hours.</p>
<p>I think, as someone said earlier, it&#8217;s all in your motivation. Showing a genuine interest and respect in a culture can come out in these sorts of actions as long as you heart is in the right place.
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What have you got against Irish Americans? Anyway, the white woman who cuts my hair tells me she has a bit of Ojibwe in her. I believe it. Her grandmother. What of it? You let your skin define you? Gees dude. 

I am pretty sure I know what it means to be white, you know, being white and all, and though I don&#039;t find it cause to celebrate and be proud (because I had nothing to do with it - it&#039;s not like an accomplishment or talent or something) it isn&#039;t something to be ashamed of either. It just is what it is. Am I proud that my eyes are hazel? What on earth does that even mean?

Where are you getting this persecution? You have a disturbingly heightened sense of imagined guilt. What you seem to be proud of is white skin, perhaps because of the varied ancestry or a lack of affinity for one culture or another. I don&#039;t know. Rather than embracing your own multi-cultural heritage, you homogenize it to a color which has no universal traditions or culture per se. My own Euro-mutt ancestry is something I find interesting. It survives in a few family dishes, some distant cousins in Europe, and family names. I itemize it out to foreigners when I travel and they find it fascinating and so &quot;American.&quot; 

I doubt (but admittedly don&#039;t know) that you have lived a life of being told you are not good enough because you are white. Other than perhaps on a basketball court or dance floor. Historically, many of other shades have been told such, openly, frequently, and with acceptance of society (OK, even white people were told -- not as whites but as Poles, Irish, etc.). But one philosophy that some internalized in the African-American community is that no one can shame you for who or what you are. That&#039;s something you accept upon yourself. Black pride wasn&#039;t about supremacy, it was about rising up from second-class to say they deserved the good seats in the bus as much as the next guy. You rarely hear it anymore (not like back in the day) and it isn&#039;t a rallying cry of Hey you white guys suck, it&#039;s more like &quot;let&#039;s lift ourselves up.&quot; 

Perhaps what makes your white pride sound racist to some is that claimed alliance with color without any other cultural unifier. It is the same rhetoric we associate with white supremacists. What&#039;s their shared culture exactly? Not saying you are of that ilk by any means! Just saying the associations of that sort of pride bring that sort of thing to mind. Like a person from India sporting the swastika is likely not going to strike people first as a guy making a religious cultural statement. (By the way, the swastika is illegal in Germany these days, UNLESS you mean to use it as that previous incarnation/cultural symbol. So even there they make a distinction between two seemingly identical objects, just like I suppose there is a distinction between white pride and white supremacy.) And anyway, since most people of the world wrongly believe that white=rich and powerful, it can also just sound like rubbing people&#039;s noses in it. Just sayin&#039;.

By the way, no matter how white your skin is, if the percentage of heritage is right (one-sixteenth is it?), the government will give you the benefit of Native American ancestry. 

I say we go find these guys who are shaming you for your skin color and lecture them until they snore. I just went to Germanfest in Milwaukee. Irish Fest is coming up. Festa Italiana was two weeks ago. Polish Fest. Greek Fest. No one protested. On the contrary, everyone attended and celebrated right along with the Irish German Italian Americans. Then there&#039;ll be African Fest, Native American, an Asian festival (talk about vague generalization), Arabfest... it goes all summer around here and all are well attended. Half the festivals are for white folk, but even they all distinguish themselves from each other. Why? (That&#039;s a real question for discussion.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What have you got against Irish Americans? Anyway, the white woman who cuts my hair tells me she has a bit of Ojibwe in her. I believe it. Her grandmother. What of it? You let your skin define you? Gees dude. </p>
<p>I am pretty sure I know what it means to be white, you know, being white and all, and though I don&#8217;t find it cause to celebrate and be proud (because I had nothing to do with it &#8211; it&#8217;s not like an accomplishment or talent or something) it isn&#8217;t something to be ashamed of either. It just is what it is. Am I proud that my eyes are hazel? What on earth does that even mean?</p>
<p>Where are you getting this persecution? You have a disturbingly heightened sense of imagined guilt. What you seem to be proud of is white skin, perhaps because of the varied ancestry or a lack of affinity for one culture or another. I don&#8217;t know. Rather than embracing your own multi-cultural heritage, you homogenize it to a color which has no universal traditions or culture per se. My own Euro-mutt ancestry is something I find interesting. It survives in a few family dishes, some distant cousins in Europe, and family names. I itemize it out to foreigners when I travel and they find it fascinating and so &#8220;American.&#8221; </p>
<p>I doubt (but admittedly don&#8217;t know) that you have lived a life of being told you are not good enough because you are white. Other than perhaps on a basketball court or dance floor. Historically, many of other shades have been told such, openly, frequently, and with acceptance of society (OK, even white people were told &#8212; not as whites but as Poles, Irish, etc.). But one philosophy that some internalized in the African-American community is that no one can shame you for who or what you are. That&#8217;s something you accept upon yourself. Black pride wasn&#8217;t about supremacy, it was about rising up from second-class to say they deserved the good seats in the bus as much as the next guy. You rarely hear it anymore (not like back in the day) and it isn&#8217;t a rallying cry of Hey you white guys suck, it&#8217;s more like &#8220;let&#8217;s lift ourselves up.&#8221; </p>
<p>Perhaps what makes your white pride sound racist to some is that claimed alliance with color without any other cultural unifier. It is the same rhetoric we associate with white supremacists. What&#8217;s their shared culture exactly? Not saying you are of that ilk by any means! Just saying the associations of that sort of pride bring that sort of thing to mind. Like a person from India sporting the swastika is likely not going to strike people first as a guy making a religious cultural statement. (By the way, the swastika is illegal in Germany these days, UNLESS you mean to use it as that previous incarnation/cultural symbol. So even there they make a distinction between two seemingly identical objects, just like I suppose there is a distinction between white pride and white supremacy.) And anyway, since most people of the world wrongly believe that white=rich and powerful, it can also just sound like rubbing people&#8217;s noses in it. Just sayin&#8217;.</p>
<p>By the way, no matter how white your skin is, if the percentage of heritage is right (one-sixteenth is it?), the government will give you the benefit of Native American ancestry. </p>
<p>I say we go find these guys who are shaming you for your skin color and lecture them until they snore. I just went to Germanfest in Milwaukee. Irish Fest is coming up. Festa Italiana was two weeks ago. Polish Fest. Greek Fest. No one protested. On the contrary, everyone attended and celebrated right along with the Irish German Italian Americans. Then there&#8217;ll be African Fest, Native American, an Asian festival (talk about vague generalization), Arabfest&#8230; it goes all summer around here and all are well attended. Half the festivals are for white folk, but even they all distinguish themselves from each other. Why? (That&#8217;s a real question for discussion.)
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		<title>By: GimmieACiggie</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever kevin, I dont appreciate you blasting me with your generalized comments, riding in on your righteous horse like your the know all be all. Do you really think anyone would take me seriously if I said I was Irish American? I have about every country of europe running threw my veins to say im (nation)American,  I have cherokee ancestry but do you think anyone would believe it ? no because no matter what I say I am, my skin is still White, you dont know how it is to be white in a multicultured world, and yes White people are guilted and made to be ashamed of their race, If we embraced our homelands and cultures we would be considered racist, you cant deny that, thats just how america is!! Im definatley not ashamed but If i say that to anyone of any other color I would be deemed as racist! Thats just how it is, and thats what &quot;Euro-Americans&quot; have to deal with!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever kevin, I dont appreciate you blasting me with your generalized comments, riding in on your righteous horse like your the know all be all. Do you really think anyone would take me seriously if I said I was Irish American? I have about every country of europe running threw my veins to say im (nation)American,  I have cherokee ancestry but do you think anyone would believe it ? no because no matter what I say I am, my skin is still White, you dont know how it is to be white in a multicultured world, and yes White people are guilted and made to be ashamed of their race, If we embraced our homelands and cultures we would be considered racist, you cant deny that, thats just how america is!! Im definatley not ashamed but If i say that to anyone of any other color I would be deemed as racist! Thats just how it is, and thats what &#8220;Euro-Americans&#8221; have to deal with!!
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on, Kevin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on, Kevin.
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well GimmieACiggie,

You should at least be ashamed of your atrocious spelling and grammar. Worry more about losing your own language than the &quot;heritage&quot; of having white skin. That was horrible. 

Regarding the absurdity of your multicultural paranoia: the fact that you don&#039;t refer to your culture as Irish, Italian, German, Polish, French or any of the myriad European cultures shows you have no European culture and little understanding of culture to begin with. You can blame that on other cultures that don&#039;t originate in that region or are non-white if you like, but it sounds like sour grapes noting their efforts to preserve theirs and suggests your only &quot;culture&quot; is the color of your skin (which will preserve itself barring severe sunburn or tanning beds - be careful!). Why doesn&#039;t your culture stand up within the multi-cultural system? Because it no longer really exists. Why else would you have to &quot;research&quot; it? Reading up on where I came from and eating a few dishes or incorporating a few odd things into a Christmas celebration is good but it is a whole lot different from attending the same pow-wow my father, my grandfather, and his ancestors did. In that case it was not studied, it&#039;s just how you grew up. And the Hopi woman, as cynical as she may be, is at least understandably annoyed that college boy read a chapter in his Lonely Planet guide and now is &quot;in touch&quot; with the spirits of the ancients.

The only reason we all share &quot;white&quot; culture is because we&#039;ve become homogenized like white milk, and a 3rd generation Asian American or Hispanic American from the same socio-economic group is about as likely to be as culturally white as you are once they&#039;re diluted into the American pot. If you feel people are trying to make you ashamed of being white, you have some sort of complex. If you feel your culture is threatened by multiculturalism, you are on Mars. Go to Thailand, Japan, Turkey, a hundred different places and watch this latest generation wholly embrace American culture. It&#039;s the &quot;other&quot; that is threatened, not your white culture. Your culture, when you figure out what it is, is part of the m-c movement (that&#039;s what multi means); share some space a little. The Illuminati aren&#039;t out to get you. Besides, they&#039;re white so you get a pass and secret handshake.

Frankly I&#039;ve seen plenty of European-based cultural references in general textbooks, particularly German, Irish, Italian and a few other recent immigrant groups. &quot;Whites&quot; are quickly losing the majority (and thus must feel threatened when they realize they let their ancestral cultures go unlike some minority groups who may cling to it a generation or two longer as security) Textbooks will one day reflect the shift in balance. Then whites will be wailing for multi-cultural inclusion.

If you have nothing else to be proud of, at least you have skin to fall back on. Kudos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well GimmieACiggie,</p>
<p>You should at least be ashamed of your atrocious spelling and grammar. Worry more about losing your own language than the &#8220;heritage&#8221; of having white skin. That was horrible. </p>
<p>Regarding the absurdity of your multicultural paranoia: the fact that you don&#8217;t refer to your culture as Irish, Italian, German, Polish, French or any of the myriad European cultures shows you have no European culture and little understanding of culture to begin with. You can blame that on other cultures that don&#8217;t originate in that region or are non-white if you like, but it sounds like sour grapes noting their efforts to preserve theirs and suggests your only &#8220;culture&#8221; is the color of your skin (which will preserve itself barring severe sunburn or tanning beds &#8211; be careful!). Why doesn&#8217;t your culture stand up within the multi-cultural system? Because it no longer really exists. Why else would you have to &#8220;research&#8221; it? Reading up on where I came from and eating a few dishes or incorporating a few odd things into a Christmas celebration is good but it is a whole lot different from attending the same pow-wow my father, my grandfather, and his ancestors did. In that case it was not studied, it&#8217;s just how you grew up. And the Hopi woman, as cynical as she may be, is at least understandably annoyed that college boy read a chapter in his Lonely Planet guide and now is &#8220;in touch&#8221; with the spirits of the ancients.</p>
<p>The only reason we all share &#8220;white&#8221; culture is because we&#8217;ve become homogenized like white milk, and a 3rd generation Asian American or Hispanic American from the same socio-economic group is about as likely to be as culturally white as you are once they&#8217;re diluted into the American pot. If you feel people are trying to make you ashamed of being white, you have some sort of complex. If you feel your culture is threatened by multiculturalism, you are on Mars. Go to Thailand, Japan, Turkey, a hundred different places and watch this latest generation wholly embrace American culture. It&#8217;s the &#8220;other&#8221; that is threatened, not your white culture. Your culture, when you figure out what it is, is part of the m-c movement (that&#8217;s what multi means); share some space a little. The Illuminati aren&#8217;t out to get you. Besides, they&#8217;re white so you get a pass and secret handshake.</p>
<p>Frankly I&#8217;ve seen plenty of European-based cultural references in general textbooks, particularly German, Irish, Italian and a few other recent immigrant groups. &#8220;Whites&#8221; are quickly losing the majority (and thus must feel threatened when they realize they let their ancestral cultures go unlike some minority groups who may cling to it a generation or two longer as security) Textbooks will one day reflect the shift in balance. Then whites will be wailing for multi-cultural inclusion.</p>
<p>If you have nothing else to be proud of, at least you have skin to fall back on. Kudos.
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		<title>By: GimmieACiggie</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well first off I disagree with Mike there is alot of heritage we can call upon, your just generalizing that everything is reenacted,alot of it is- if you havnt DONE the research! European descented people have rich religious culture, its just been hidden and tainted by Christianity,History books, &amp; Multiculturalism. 
On my second note, Its natural for white americans to want to be apart of other cultures! and for Hopi woman and others to shun whites from any interest in theirs is RUDE!  Because We have had to swallow guilt in history about what some of our ancestors have done in the past, we have lost a sense of our own cultural roots and European descendants, and with the media and Illuminati written schoolbooks  peddling multicultural influence and negative connotations about being white, alot of whites have NO clue what our heritage is about AT ALL! weve had to spend all of our time on other cultures honest misfortunes that we forgot our own! I am not ashamed of being of EUROPEAN descent, nor do I care weather these cultures take offence that I show any glimmer of interest in theirs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well first off I disagree with Mike there is alot of heritage we can call upon, your just generalizing that everything is reenacted,alot of it is- if you havnt DONE the research! European descented people have rich religious culture, its just been hidden and tainted by Christianity,History books, &amp; Multiculturalism.<br />
On my second note, Its natural for white americans to want to be apart of other cultures! and for Hopi woman and others to shun whites from any interest in theirs is RUDE!  Because We have had to swallow guilt in history about what some of our ancestors have done in the past, we have lost a sense of our own cultural roots and European descendants, and with the media and Illuminati written schoolbooks  peddling multicultural influence and negative connotations about being white, alot of whites have NO clue what our heritage is about AT ALL! weve had to spend all of our time on other cultures honest misfortunes that we forgot our own! I am not ashamed of being of EUROPEAN descent, nor do I care weather these cultures take offence that I show any glimmer of interest in theirs
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		<title>By: Tabitha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tabitha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They call this &quot;cooptation by whites.&quot; There is a really interesting book, Racetalk, that discusses why whites do this. It comes to the same conclusion that the Hopi woman does:  most people that &quot;coopt&quot; do it unreflexively, ignoring the historical roots and cultural ramifications. This damages race relations and insults non-white heritage.</description>
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