Comments on: New York’s Fake Subway Advisory http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2009/05/08/new-yorks-fake-subway-advisory/ Online travel magazine dedicated to exploring travel in the 21st century. Offering travel news, compelling interviews, online travel tools, and more. Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:48:01 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: AJ http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2009/05/08/new-yorks-fake-subway-advisory/comment-page-1/#comment-93598 AJ Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:17:54 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=1486#comment-93598 The problem with the MTA is that they keep raising the fares and reducing the service. Furthermore the MTA also recieves .3% of the 8.25% sales tax on top of what we already pay for fares. They bring in millions of dollars a day and claim that they still need more money for repairs. Where is it going? I've ridden every train in NYC everywhere in all boro's (even Staten Island), and what they decide to repair barely makes sense. There are stations that are literally crumbling and they are installing silly PA systems and only fixing stations in good neighborhoods. The stations in bad neighborhoods always receive the worst service and the least repairs. The agency needs to be audited. The money we pay is disappearing, we're not getting anything for it. Anyone notice that you have to wait 10 minutes for a B train during rush hour? it's supposed to come every 5, or less! The problem with the MTA is that they keep raising the fares and reducing the service. Furthermore the MTA also recieves .3% of the 8.25% sales tax on top of what we already pay for fares. They bring in millions of dollars a day and claim that they still need more money for repairs. Where is it going? I’ve ridden every train in NYC everywhere in all boro’s (even Staten Island), and what they decide to repair barely makes sense. There are stations that are literally crumbling and they are installing silly PA systems and only fixing stations in good neighborhoods. The stations in bad neighborhoods always receive the worst service and the least repairs. The agency needs to be audited. The money we pay is disappearing, we’re not getting anything for it. Anyone notice that you have to wait 10 minutes for a B train during rush hour? it’s supposed to come every 5, or less!

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]]> By: eon http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2009/05/08/new-yorks-fake-subway-advisory/comment-page-1/#comment-91657 eon Thu, 28 May 2009 03:56:33 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=1486#comment-91657 Subways? Hmmm, I've lived in new york for almost my entire life and have travelled a little bit; mostly Europe, Canada and the US. The most efficient line I've been on in the States has to be the DC metro, although it does close down early but you can get virtually anywhere from southern Md. to pretty far into Va. and all points of DC with the exception of Georgetown. The tubes, subways, metro's of Europe and Canada are much better than the NYC subway, although it has improved tremendously you still are basically descending into an oddysey if you're not hip to the subway map and express train signs. As a native, I think the $2 is insane but it's all subjective with trade-offs and whatnot. The US is frightened of public transit, too socialist, too urban, too utopian. You still can't get to Manhattan from LaGuardia without taking two buses and changing to the 7 train. For a city with the worldwide reputation of NYC not to have a convenient public transit route from the airport to the midtown area is a disgrace. I know, I know, JFK has that monorail thing but you still have to change at Jamaica station; it would be nice if it went all the way into the city like the Paddington Express from Heathrow does in London. Subways? Hmmm, I’ve lived in new york for almost my entire life and have travelled a little bit; mostly Europe, Canada and the US. The most efficient line I’ve been on in the States has to be the DC metro, although it does close down early but you can get virtually anywhere from southern Md. to pretty far into Va. and all points of DC with the exception of Georgetown. The tubes, subways, metro’s of Europe and Canada are much better than the NYC subway, although it has improved tremendously you still are basically descending into an oddysey if you’re not hip to the subway map and express train signs. As a native, I think the $2 is insane but it’s all subjective with trade-offs and whatnot. The US is frightened of public transit, too socialist, too urban, too utopian. You still can’t get to Manhattan from LaGuardia without taking two buses and changing to the 7 train. For a city with the worldwide reputation of NYC not to have a convenient public transit route from the airport to the midtown area is a disgrace. I know, I know, JFK has that monorail thing but you still have to change at Jamaica station; it would be nice if it went all the way into the city like the Paddington Express from Heathrow does in London.

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]]> By: Elizabeth http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2009/05/08/new-yorks-fake-subway-advisory/comment-page-1/#comment-91258 Elizabeth Wed, 13 May 2009 14:18:35 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=1486#comment-91258 I totally agree with the Tube comment. After living in London for only three months, I was missing the NY subway—it's more efficient, cheaper, runs all night and actually shows up (most of the time!). A year back in NY and I miss the plush seats, clean stations and that fact that the homeless can't really afford to ride it. Before I moved to London a friend warned me that it was dirty and she always come home with soot in her nose. I thought she was crazy, but low and behold, she was right. DISGUSTING!!! Yet a week ago I noticed the same thing in NY for the first time. We are basically killing ourselves by subjecting yourselves to this environment. I totally agree with the Tube comment. After living in London for only three months, I was missing the NY subway—it’s more efficient, cheaper, runs all night and actually shows up (most of the time!). A year back in NY and I miss the plush seats, clean stations and that fact that the homeless can’t really afford to ride it.

Before I moved to London a friend warned me that it was dirty and she always come home with soot in her nose. I thought she was crazy, but low and behold, she was right. DISGUSTING!!! Yet a week ago I noticed the same thing in NY for the first time. We are basically killing ourselves by subjecting yourselves to this environment.

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]]> By: Beth http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2009/05/08/new-yorks-fake-subway-advisory/comment-page-1/#comment-91224 Beth Tue, 12 May 2009 17:27:42 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=1486#comment-91224 I went to NYC for the first time last summer and wondered why it was so gosh darn hot in the subway stations. It's UNDERGROUND and the stations were hotter than it was outside! What's up with that? ITA with you about the U-Bahn in Berlin. By far the best subway system in the world IMO. I wouldn't mind living in Berlin because it is so easy to get around in that city. Although I haven't been to London yet so maybe I'll like their system better if I ever get to use it. I went to NYC for the first time last summer and wondered why it was so gosh darn hot in the subway stations. It’s UNDERGROUND and the stations were hotter than it was outside! What’s up with that?

ITA with you about the U-Bahn in Berlin. By far the best subway system in the world IMO. I wouldn’t mind living in Berlin because it is so easy to get around in that city. Although I haven’t been to London yet so maybe I’ll like their system better if I ever get to use it.

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]]> By: Eva http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2009/05/08/new-yorks-fake-subway-advisory/comment-page-1/#comment-91204 Eva Tue, 12 May 2009 12:00:50 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=1486#comment-91204 Most of the trains I've been on in the last few months at least attempted announcements; on the newer trains, you could even understand them. Most of the trains I’ve been on in the last few months at least attempted announcements; on the newer trains, you could even understand them.

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]]> By: Eva http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2009/05/08/new-yorks-fake-subway-advisory/comment-page-1/#comment-91203 Eva Tue, 12 May 2009 11:57:51 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=1486#comment-91203 For me, I can never bring myself to complain about the New York subway (no matter how tempted I might have been, occasionally) for one reason: price. The subway literally costs 1/3 (or less) the price of a ticket on the tube in London. If we're talking single fare tickets? $2 on the NYC subway, wherever your destination is, compared to 3 pounds for zone 1 on the tube, and going up to five or six pounds for outlying areas. So in London you could (and I have) pay as much as $12 for a single fare. That's not to say there isn't room for improvements - but New Yorkers will probably have to be prepared to pay for them... For me, I can never bring myself to complain about the New York subway (no matter how tempted I might have been, occasionally) for one reason: price.

The subway literally costs 1/3 (or less) the price of a ticket on the tube in London. If we’re talking single fare tickets? $2 on the NYC subway, wherever your destination is, compared to 3 pounds for zone 1 on the tube, and going up to five or six pounds for outlying areas. So in London you could (and I have) pay as much as $12 for a single fare.

That’s not to say there isn’t room for improvements – but New Yorkers will probably have to be prepared to pay for them…

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]]> By: shakester http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2009/05/08/new-yorks-fake-subway-advisory/comment-page-1/#comment-91190 shakester Tue, 12 May 2009 08:52:59 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=1486#comment-91190 hong kong's pretty good, and singapore is fantastic from the 'dont have a car, doesnt matter' point of view- all punctual, very clean, good network, with another line coming up this year hong kong’s pretty good, and singapore is fantastic from the ‘dont have a car, doesnt matter’ point of view- all punctual, very clean, good network, with another line coming up this year

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]]> By: Carlo Alcos http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2009/05/08/new-yorks-fake-subway-advisory/comment-page-1/#comment-91153 Carlo Alcos Mon, 11 May 2009 22:14:37 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=1486#comment-91153 Very good point about value for dollar. In Sydney, I once took public transport from the airport to a suburb in the south. I went from bus to train to bus, and for each one I had to buy a new ticket because none of them were related to each other. Ridiculous. Very good point about value for dollar. In Sydney, I once took public transport from the airport to a suburb in the south. I went from bus to train to bus, and for each one I had to buy a new ticket because none of them were related to each other. Ridiculous.

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]]> By: Christine Garvin http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2009/05/08/new-yorks-fake-subway-advisory/comment-page-1/#comment-91121 Christine Garvin Mon, 11 May 2009 15:10:54 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=1486#comment-91121 Hi Dan, Did a quick search of pophangover.com and couldn't find it...but send me the link, and I'll change the reference. Hi Dan,

Did a quick search of pophangover.com and couldn’t find it…but send me the link, and I’ll change the reference.

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]]> By: Mark http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2009/05/08/new-yorks-fake-subway-advisory/comment-page-1/#comment-91116 Mark Mon, 11 May 2009 14:14:29 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=1486#comment-91116 After living in Chicago for five years and becoming intimately familiar with the El, I can state without a doubt that New Yorkers have nothing to complain about. I've been in New York for two years and the subway system on its worst day still exceeds the speed and reliability of the Chicago system. After living in Chicago for five years and becoming intimately familiar with the El, I can state without a doubt that New Yorkers have nothing to complain about. I’ve been in New York for two years and the subway system on its worst day still exceeds the speed and reliability of the Chicago system.

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