Comments on: Bizarre Christian Billboard Compares Atheism To Murder?

By: Rich

Rich — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:11:31 +0000

What’s the point in arguing/ discussing these issues? I have never met a group of people with such closed minds to the possibilities of the whole God vs evolution theory as Christians- Period… (almost like they have been brain washed in to there way of thinking) Oppps did I say that?

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By: Aspentroll

Aspentroll — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 16:31:50 +0000

People will respect anyone who treat them respectfully. Somehow the fundies have the idea that if you’re not one of them, you must be a person driven by the devil.
Stats show there are more christians in the jails than atheists. How can that be when
god(s) are supposed to be in control? The fundies are not acting very much like Christians when they judge others the way they sometimes do.

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By: samuel welsh

samuel welsh — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:16:54 +0000

it is not murder just very disapointing
murder is murder not words

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By: Monado

Monado — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:57:33 +0000

As the insane f___tard who killed Dr. Tiller did so because he thought Christianity gave him a “Get out of jail free” card, I’d rather trust people who don’t think that a ritual cleanses them of responsibility for what they have done.

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By: bb

bb — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:07:23 +0000

I’ve seen that sign. Oh my god that’s horribly twisted. I dont believe in god, at least not in the way they may want me to, and i love my family more than life itself. This is just a blatant depiction of the worst case scenario of some godless or god fearing nut job. it goes both ways. anyone has the potential inside them to be a killer. its a matter of choices, free will and all that jazz. Although I may not conciously make the decision everyday, I have made the decision to live my life the best way I can for me and the people around me because you effect people in the smallest of ways, even if the effect is you setting them off which subsequently leads them to shooting you in the face for being nicer than they are. Everyone is probably just different on what it would take for them to point a gun at your head. sometimes it does have a lot to do with god, or someones lack of belief in your god in particular. other times people are just crazy.
From what I see, with the people I’ve met, church is just another way to cope with stuff that’s outside their understanding ( like counseling but no ones actively asking how you feel) or an easy out for forgiveness or, if you’re me, i like church because sometimes it gives me a warm fuzzy and reminds me of family.

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By: andy

andy — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:24:39 +0000

Thanks for your response Kelli. You make some valid points and I would like to address each of them:

did you blame the team for the supporters’ actions? what’s the logic there, if i may ask?……….

…..I did feel some guilt in losing faith in the team, but football supporters are a community in the same way that churchgoers are. And when I could feel their hatred all around me I started to question why I was spending quite a lot of money following the team. I started asking the same questions of the satholic church some years ago, followed closely by Islam and decided that the negatives of religion outweighed any positives. An interesting sideline is that in England there was a major problem of football related violence in the 1970s and 1980s but by tackling the problem head-on it was resolved and football grounds are generally safe, family friendly places, even though some of the language is colourful. I think the various religions could learn a lot about isolating and condemning the actions of their extremists. But as the child abuse scandal shows, they can be slow, defensive and downright obstructive of the law in such issues.

you believe that as people become educated they will turn away from religion. that is a familiar refrain, i’m afraid, but i believe in reality it has little merit. sure there are non-thinking religious people, just as there are non-thinking environmentalists. there will be non-thinking people in any group, i imagine…..

……There is a great deal of evidence that education leads people to question what they were brought up to believe and this may well be the biggest reason for the reduction in church attendance. You are right that there are non-thinking people in every community but I think a better response would have been to say that there are plenty of thinking people who remain religious. Your own President is probably the best example of this. But in my experience the ‘thinking’ people are drawn to the church for the sense of community and friendship it can generate, not because they believe literally in the gospels. These are the same people that will be alienated by the actions of the extreme, hateful minority. The challenge for the major religions will be to reinvent themselves by casting away the unnecessary and irrational doctrines that they ascribe to and winning over new generations of supporters by example rather than through fear.

finally, you think that moderate church leaders should recognize that scare tactics don’t work and do something, the logic being that moderate church leaders are “thinking enough” to do so and that moderate leaders actually exist, given the fact that educated people are falling away from religion in high numbers…….

……See my point above. Kelli, without wishing to sound patronising, I thought that your reply was thoughtful and I hope that you will take my response in the spirit intended.

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By: Andrew

Andrew — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 03:32:42 +0000

What does this mean? They’re desperate. This is despicable but it means nothing. Religious extremists will just nod their fearful, stupid heads in smug satisfaction, with one more piece of bullshit to reinforce their impossibly ignorant worldview. Otherwise, this can only hurt religion’s already-damaged cause. It is almost good to see – it shows just how pathetic, desperate, backwards, and downright evil the church is, and the beauty is that it’s doing this PR damage to itself. The church is on its way out, as its educated constituents are continually filtered out, leaving it with only the rabble who agree with this BS.

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By: Kelli

Kelli — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:06:54 +0000

andy–

did you blame the team for the supporters’ actions? what’s the logic there, if i may ask?

just checking.

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By: andy

andy — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:58:12 +0000

It really worries me that a supposedly modern western country is beset by the religious extremism that this advertising represents. I used to support a football team here in England until I was repelled by the actions of some of its so-called supporters. I think that the louder the extremist minority voice is raised, the more that normal, educated people will turn away from religion. So in all likelihood the scare tactics adopted by these people will do their cause more harm than good.
The worry is that if their scare tactics do not work then they will turn to the same violence that scars the Middle East and Afghanistan. Moderate church leaders need to recognise this sooner rather than later and do something rather than bury their heads in the sand.

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By: Kris

Kris — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:42:47 +0000

Gee, I dunno…I can actually SEE and INTERACT with other people. Other people have a proven ability to affect my life, for the better or the worse. God, on the other hand…

I don’t give a crap about God, even if he DOES exist. He has never responded to my prayers, even when I was an honestly fervent follower, so either he doesn’t exist, or he doesn’t care; either way, hardly someone I would care about.

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