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		<title>By: Jacquelline Marshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacquelline Marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christine, I would like to hear from you. A friend and I are involved in a food strike in sympathy for the North Korean prison inmates. We have learned one heck of a lot about Kim Jung Il just from the fact that we are eating the same diet as those inmates and we are essentially starving, and therefore, what he is doing is definitely cold blooded murder with malice aforethought. Our blog has already been reported by Voice of America in Korea--amazingly, in KOREAN. This means that people over there may realize that some Americans empathize with their plight, which was our whole goal to begin with. I hope to hear from you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christine, I would like to hear from you. A friend and I are involved in a food strike in sympathy for the North Korean prison inmates. We have learned one heck of a lot about Kim Jung Il just from the fact that we are eating the same diet as those inmates and we are essentially starving, and therefore, what he is doing is definitely cold blooded murder with malice aforethought. Our blog has already been reported by Voice of America in Korea&#8211;amazingly, in KOREAN. This means that people over there may realize that some Americans empathize with their plight, which was our whole goal to begin with. I hope to hear from you.
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christine, great article. At least you have the courage to write an article about this subject for the people who truly don&#039;t know that it still exists today.

Remember, there will never be a time that everyone agrees with each other. It&#039;s part of life, and it&#039;s quite unnecessary to put someone down just because you have a different view or opinion on the topic that they authored.

Thanks, and I look forward to reading more from you. 

Ry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christine, great article. At least you have the courage to write an article about this subject for the people who truly don&#8217;t know that it still exists today.</p>
<p>Remember, there will never be a time that everyone agrees with each other. It&#8217;s part of life, and it&#8217;s quite unnecessary to put someone down just because you have a different view or opinion on the topic that they authored.</p>
<p>Thanks, and I look forward to reading more from you. </p>
<p>Ry
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		<title>By: Christine Garvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine Garvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and it&#039;s &quot;Pol Pot&quot; &quot;Saddam&quot; and &quot;naive.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and it&#8217;s &#8220;Pol Pot&#8221; &#8220;Saddam&#8221; and &#8220;naive.&#8221;
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		<title>By: DHarbecke</title>
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		<dc:creator>DHarbecke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Few of us think that such a dick could exist in our world today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Few of us think that such a dick could exist in our world today.
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		<title>By: Buddy Martell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buddy Martell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeez, what a dick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeez, what a dick
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		<title>By: Christine Garvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine Garvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without a doubt, S., I know that no one I know personally would say yoga is one of my core competencies, and as for &quot;pretending&quot; to be a California hippie, I eat too much meat and don&#039;t smoke enough weed for that. I get threatened with Socialist a lot more than hippie, so thanks.

As for &quot;an immature and cloistered view of the world,&quot; I hardly think that my years of social justice work with international organizations lends itself to that. I won&#039;t even go into the specifics, other than to say I met some of the most oppressed people in this world who were able to fight their way out of the place they had been forced into, and now were helping countless more in the process. They inspired me more than I think anyone else will ever be able to. 

My point was that the &quot;psychology&quot; behind &quot;let&#039;s go in there and bomb the shit out of everything&quot; in Afghanistan and having the entirety of the US backing that because we felt threatened instead of looking at the realities of what led to the Taliban to coordinate a mass killing, after we essentially helped both Osama and Saddam--who of course had nothing to do with 9/11, but hey, let&#039;s bomb the shit out of them while we&#039;re at it--come to power (I&#039;m assuming even you would agree it wasn&#039;t just because they &quot;hated our way of life&quot;) is at the base the same as to why a boy born in a gulag camp, and a NK military officer would believe people DESERVED to rot or be murdered in a camp (this belief, or psychological strategy if you will, is one of few reasons that people can carry out terror). Not everyone who does something evil is born that way, but our minds are highly susceptible to messages of what threatens our base fears, the largest of which is our own existence. Therefore, manipulation is ripe for the pickin&#039;.

I like to tackle some of the larger questions in life, because apparently, the way things have been handled for most of time has led to just more and more bloodshed. I refuse to shed blood with you--it&#039;s not worth it to me. So if you need to think of me as naive, immature, and cloistered to make yourself feel better, go ahead. Me, I&#039;m going to keep on focusing on how we might try and stop killing each other. 

Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without a doubt, S., I know that no one I know personally would say yoga is one of my core competencies, and as for &#8220;pretending&#8221; to be a California hippie, I eat too much meat and don&#8217;t smoke enough weed for that. I get threatened with Socialist a lot more than hippie, so thanks.</p>
<p>As for &#8220;an immature and cloistered view of the world,&#8221; I hardly think that my years of social justice work with international organizations lends itself to that. I won&#8217;t even go into the specifics, other than to say I met some of the most oppressed people in this world who were able to fight their way out of the place they had been forced into, and now were helping countless more in the process. They inspired me more than I think anyone else will ever be able to. </p>
<p>My point was that the &#8220;psychology&#8221; behind &#8220;let&#8217;s go in there and bomb the shit out of everything&#8221; in Afghanistan and having the entirety of the US backing that because we felt threatened instead of looking at the realities of what led to the Taliban to coordinate a mass killing, after we essentially helped both Osama and Saddam&#8211;who of course had nothing to do with 9/11, but hey, let&#8217;s bomb the shit out of them while we&#8217;re at it&#8211;come to power (I&#8217;m assuming even you would agree it wasn&#8217;t just because they &#8220;hated our way of life&#8221;) is at the base the same as to why a boy born in a gulag camp, and a NK military officer would believe people DESERVED to rot or be murdered in a camp (this belief, or psychological strategy if you will, is one of few reasons that people can carry out terror). Not everyone who does something evil is born that way, but our minds are highly susceptible to messages of what threatens our base fears, the largest of which is our own existence. Therefore, manipulation is ripe for the pickin&#8217;.</p>
<p>I like to tackle some of the larger questions in life, because apparently, the way things have been handled for most of time has led to just more and more bloodshed. I refuse to shed blood with you&#8211;it&#8217;s not worth it to me. So if you need to think of me as naive, immature, and cloistered to make yourself feel better, go ahead. Me, I&#8217;m going to keep on focusing on how we might try and stop killing each other. </p>
<p>Peace.
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		<title>By: s</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UNBELIEVEABLE! - &quot;incredibly naiive&quot; is an understatement - from the Gulags of Siberia to the fields of Po Poht to the torture rooms of Saadam - these practices have been in place throughout my lifetime and therefore throughout the author&#039;s.  Only someone with an immature and cloistered view of the world could miss them.  I am lost at the equivalency between &quot;few dissenting voices &#039;objecting to&#039; [sic] the Iraq &amp; A-stan invasions&quot; and those that said nothing to the Nazi camps.  Even if you object to those bone fide military actions levied against bone fide military targets, the difference between torturing and exterminating captive civilians and the direct or collateral causualties of war is so stark that even the most abject partisan with any measurable intellect could discern.  The purpose of Kim Il&#039;s camps is to make people suffer....... 3 generations deep.  This is so word can get out to the rest of the populace that if you disobey, you and your family disappear.  It is about control via fear &amp; terror.  Otherwise the people might revolt having to eat cow dung for one meal a day in order to survive while Kim and his family live in luxury with 3 swimming pools, 4 man-made lakes, a 30,000 sq ft mansion, ski boats, helicopters, Ferrari&#039;s and european prostitutes.  And these people are not madmen.  They are siimply the result of power vested in government bureaucrats rather than in the citizens.  It is the salient difference between what we call a democratic republic and a socialist state.  You better stick to your core competencies......... yoga and pretending to be a California hippie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UNBELIEVEABLE! &#8211; &#8220;incredibly naiive&#8221; is an understatement &#8211; from the Gulags of Siberia to the fields of Po Poht to the torture rooms of Saadam &#8211; these practices have been in place throughout my lifetime and therefore throughout the author&#8217;s.  Only someone with an immature and cloistered view of the world could miss them.  I am lost at the equivalency between &#8220;few dissenting voices &#8216;objecting to&#8217; [sic] the Iraq &amp; A-stan invasions&#8221; and those that said nothing to the Nazi camps.  Even if you object to those bone fide military actions levied against bone fide military targets, the difference between torturing and exterminating captive civilians and the direct or collateral causualties of war is so stark that even the most abject partisan with any measurable intellect could discern.  The purpose of Kim Il&#8217;s camps is to make people suffer&#8230;&#8230;. 3 generations deep.  This is so word can get out to the rest of the populace that if you disobey, you and your family disappear.  It is about control via fear &amp; terror.  Otherwise the people might revolt having to eat cow dung for one meal a day in order to survive while Kim and his family live in luxury with 3 swimming pools, 4 man-made lakes, a 30,000 sq ft mansion, ski boats, helicopters, Ferrari&#8217;s and european prostitutes.  And these people are not madmen.  They are siimply the result of power vested in government bureaucrats rather than in the citizens.  It is the salient difference between what we call a democratic republic and a socialist state.  You better stick to your core competencies&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; yoga and pretending to be a California hippie.
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		<title>By: Buddy Martell</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 14:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cult of Personality.

Kim Jong-Il is the harshest, cruelest, most ruthless dictator since Hitler. Like Hitler and Stalin, Kim uses the government media to portray himself as the God-head of the &quot;Democratic&quot; &quot;People&#039;s&quot; Republic of North Korea (Quotey fingers exaggerated). Absolute power corrupts absolutely. When put into the hands of a stark raving mad lunatic such as Kim, this maxim rings truer than ever. The people in NK don&#039;t know any better because knowledge of anything other than their &quot;Great (formerly Dear) Leader&quot; or &quot;Eternal President&quot;, Kim Il-Sung (Jong-Il&#039;s late father), is outlawed. It&#039;s easy to control an uneducated or miseducated population.
 
I&#039;d love nothing better than to send the US Navy SEALS in to NK to cleanly chop off the head of this ridiculous dictatorship, but such action would be a PR nightmare for our country, potentially causing more harm than good,, and emboldening similar dictators to mobilize their lemmings against us. (i.e. Meles Zenawi, Ethiopia and Mahmoud Amedinejad, Iran).

Unfortunately, all we can do right now is wait for Kim to give us a good, solid reason to destroy his oppressive regime once and for all. A reason that will be backed by the UN. Either that, or wait for the ultimate eventuality of his regime consuming itself comes to pass. One or the other will happen. Hopefully sooner rather than later.

fishbulb: You&#039;re obviously very naive. I don&#039;t care to explain.

Christine: Great post. People need to know what&#039;s going on out there. I&#039;m sometimes appalled at how little my closest friends and family know about what goes on outside their circle of influence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cult of Personality.</p>
<p>Kim Jong-Il is the harshest, cruelest, most ruthless dictator since Hitler. Like Hitler and Stalin, Kim uses the government media to portray himself as the God-head of the &#8220;Democratic&#8221; &#8220;People&#8217;s&#8221; Republic of North Korea (Quotey fingers exaggerated). Absolute power corrupts absolutely. When put into the hands of a stark raving mad lunatic such as Kim, this maxim rings truer than ever. The people in NK don&#8217;t know any better because knowledge of anything other than their &#8220;Great (formerly Dear) Leader&#8221; or &#8220;Eternal President&#8221;, Kim Il-Sung (Jong-Il&#8217;s late father), is outlawed. It&#8217;s easy to control an uneducated or miseducated population.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love nothing better than to send the US Navy SEALS in to NK to cleanly chop off the head of this ridiculous dictatorship, but such action would be a PR nightmare for our country, potentially causing more harm than good,, and emboldening similar dictators to mobilize their lemmings against us. (i.e. Meles Zenawi, Ethiopia and Mahmoud Amedinejad, Iran).</p>
<p>Unfortunately, all we can do right now is wait for Kim to give us a good, solid reason to destroy his oppressive regime once and for all. A reason that will be backed by the UN. Either that, or wait for the ultimate eventuality of his regime consuming itself comes to pass. One or the other will happen. Hopefully sooner rather than later.</p>
<p>fishbulb: You&#8217;re obviously very naive. I don&#8217;t care to explain.</p>
<p>Christine: Great post. People need to know what&#8217;s going on out there. I&#8217;m sometimes appalled at how little my closest friends and family know about what goes on outside their circle of influence.
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		<title>By: Christine Garvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine Garvin</dc:creator>
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		<description>Fishbulb, 

I do not consider myself &quot;incredibly naive,&quot; but rather simply stated the fact that many people in mainstream western societies do not actually know that these incredible atrocities, that are tantamount to the worst of the concentration camps in Nazi Germany, are occurring at this very second. The point is to get people riled up.

As for the wondering how, it is a philosophical question of how at a time when we are supposed to have evolved as a human race, do &quot;normal&quot; people, which most of the guards and those who inflict the most suffering start off as, still participate in such death mongering.

It also would have been helpful if you added a point to your comment, as in &quot;I&#039;ve seen firsthand&quot; or &quot;I&#039;ve read extensively&quot; rather than to simply say something rude and then quote me. Maybe then real dialogue could have commenced.</description>
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<p>I do not consider myself &#8220;incredibly naive,&#8221; but rather simply stated the fact that many people in mainstream western societies do not actually know that these incredible atrocities, that are tantamount to the worst of the concentration camps in Nazi Germany, are occurring at this very second. The point is to get people riled up.</p>
<p>As for the wondering how, it is a philosophical question of how at a time when we are supposed to have evolved as a human race, do &#8220;normal&#8221; people, which most of the guards and those who inflict the most suffering start off as, still participate in such death mongering.</p>
<p>It also would have been helpful if you added a point to your comment, as in &#8220;I&#8217;ve seen firsthand&#8221; or &#8220;I&#8217;ve read extensively&#8221; rather than to simply say something rude and then quote me. Maybe then real dialogue could have commenced.
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		<title>By: fishbulb</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 04:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article appears to be written by an incredibly naive individual. 

&quot;Few of us think that concentration camps could exist in our world today. &quot;
&quot;As I read through the articles, I couldn’t help but wonder how? How do these camps exist at this point in time?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article appears to be written by an incredibly naive individual. </p>
<p>&#8220;Few of us think that concentration camps could exist in our world today. &#8221;<br />
&#8220;As I read through the articles, I couldn’t help but wonder how? How do these camps exist at this point in time?&#8221;
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