Comments on: 6 Ways To Not Be A Holier-Than-Thou Traveler http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2009/06/17/6-ways-to-not-be-a-holier-than-thou-traveler/ Online travel magazine dedicated to exploring travel in the 21st century. Offering travel news, compelling interviews, online travel tools, and more. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:14:28 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Maggie http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2009/06/17/6-ways-to-not-be-a-holier-than-thou-traveler/comment-page-1/#comment-94947 Maggie Wed, 21 Oct 2009 02:38:12 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=2968#comment-94947 I have a terrible holier than thou attitude, and I'm trying to break myself of it... I'm brand new in South Korea as an English teacher, and everyone keeps telling me to "be careful to do this", or "I know this is annoying, but..." and before I can help it, I just blurt "Yes, I know. I've lived in Africa. This is pie compared to *that.*" And every time I just want to slap myself in the face, but sometimes the "this is easy" attitude is what's getting me through the day. Maybe it's the same for these folks. I have a terrible holier than thou attitude, and I’m trying to break myself of it… I’m brand new in South Korea as an English teacher, and everyone keeps telling me to “be careful to do this”, or “I know this is annoying, but…” and before I can help it, I just blurt “Yes, I know. I’ve lived in Africa. This is pie compared to *that.*”

And every time I just want to slap myself in the face, but sometimes the “this is easy” attitude is what’s getting me through the day. Maybe it’s the same for these folks.

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]]> By: N http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2009/06/17/6-ways-to-not-be-a-holier-than-thou-traveler/comment-page-1/#comment-94917 N Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:33:09 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=2968#comment-94917 "appreciate that you are dependent on the wifi they keep up and running, enabling you to blog"... that is an awesome point. Without people who get up and go to the same job every day, we wouldn't have taxi drivers, pilots, chefs, hostels/hotels, banks, cameras, you name it. We def rely on them on our travels and should be grateful that the world isn't solely backpackers, or else we'd all be screwed! “appreciate that you are dependent on the wifi they keep up and running, enabling you to blog”… that is an awesome point.

Without people who get up and go to the same job every day, we wouldn’t have taxi drivers, pilots, chefs, hostels/hotels, banks, cameras, you name it. We def rely on them on our travels and should be grateful that the world isn’t solely backpackers, or else we’d all be screwed!

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]]> By: Carlo Alcos http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2009/06/17/6-ways-to-not-be-a-holier-than-thou-traveler/comment-page-1/#comment-93048 Carlo Alcos Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:57:04 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=2968#comment-93048 Oh c'mon Christine, you could teach the course! Oh c’mon Christine, you could teach the course!

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]]> By: Christine Garvin http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2009/06/17/6-ways-to-not-be-a-holier-than-thou-traveler/comment-page-1/#comment-93047 Christine Garvin Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:55:12 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=2968#comment-93047 I want to take a class on being lovely at the University of Lovely. I want to take a class on being lovely at the University of Lovely.

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]]> By: Carlo Alcos http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2009/06/17/6-ways-to-not-be-a-holier-than-thou-traveler/comment-page-1/#comment-93046 Carlo Alcos Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:48:22 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=2968#comment-93046 Are micronations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micronation) counted? Like the one Danny Wallance started up? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Lovely Are micronations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micronation) counted? Like the one Danny Wallance started up?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Lovely

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]]> By: Stephen Hartshorne http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2009/06/17/6-ways-to-not-be-a-holier-than-thou-traveler/comment-page-1/#comment-93041 Stephen Hartshorne Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:44:35 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=2968#comment-93041 As associate editor of gonomad.com I see a lot of travel snobbery against guided tours or popular attractions. Then there's this one: "Last year this was a beautiful, unspoiled destination, but this year YOU showed up." p.s. You can up your country count with a visit to Transnistria, the country that doesn't exist: http://www.gonomad.com/destinations/0906/transnistria.html As associate editor of gonomad.com I see a lot of travel snobbery against guided tours or popular attractions.
Then there’s this one: “Last year this was a beautiful, unspoiled destination, but this year YOU showed up.”
p.s. You can up your country count with a visit to Transnistria, the country that doesn’t exist:
http://www.gonomad.com/destinations/0906/transnistria.html

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]]> By: Gary Arndt http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2009/06/17/6-ways-to-not-be-a-holier-than-thou-traveler/comment-page-1/#comment-93028 Gary Arndt Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:18:13 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=2968#comment-93028 In all fairness, you can count more than 195 countries. http://www.travelerscenturyclub.org/ They use a more expansive definition of "country" including non-independent countries and places which are geographically removed. French Polynesia isn't independent but if you've been there you haven't really been to France. Same with Puerto Rico, Taiwan, Hong Kong, etc. In all fairness, you can count more than 195 countries.
http://www.travelerscenturyclub.org/

They use a more expansive definition of “country” including non-independent countries and places which are geographically removed. French Polynesia isn’t independent but if you’ve been there you haven’t really been to France. Same with Puerto Rico, Taiwan, Hong Kong, etc.

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]]> By: Ryan http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2009/06/17/6-ways-to-not-be-a-holier-than-thou-traveler/comment-page-1/#comment-92834 Ryan Mon, 13 Jul 2009 07:18:27 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=2968#comment-92834 Amanda, you also make a great point (thanks for the quote). I am usually the quiet one in the group as I prefer to listen to the stories of others more than tell my own. However, I need to remind myself that there is no shame in offering input of any kind to a conversation. Too often I find myself biting m tounge so as not to sound pretentious in some way but really, how offensive can a good travel story be? As for some more additions to the list (this one is for traveler-traveler interaction) 1. You mean you went to ______ and didn't do this? 2. Well if you are going to ______, the only way to do it is ________. 3. That's a good story, but let me tell you about the time that I _______. There is no "right" way to travel or "necessary" agenda for a certain place. Unfortunately, many of my fellow Americans seem to think so and have embarrassed me in international crowds. And for Pete's sake people, please don't try to one-up some one else's story the minute they finish...it's really off-putting! Great article Christine (again). This is really a topic I think more people should read about. However, it seems that the most guilty parties are ignorant to the fact that they even commit these crimes and can't be stopped. God help us! haha Amanda, you also make a great point (thanks for the quote). I am usually the quiet one in the group as I prefer to listen to the stories of others more than tell my own. However, I need to remind myself that there is no shame in offering input of any kind to a conversation. Too often I find myself biting m tounge so as not to sound pretentious in some way but really, how offensive can a good travel story be?

As for some more additions to the list (this one is for traveler-traveler interaction)
1. You mean you went to ______ and didn’t do this?
2. Well if you are going to ______, the only way to do it is ________.
3. That’s a good story, but let me tell you about the time that I _______.

There is no “right” way to travel or “necessary” agenda for a certain place. Unfortunately, many of my fellow Americans seem to think so and have embarrassed me in international crowds. And for Pete’s sake people, please don’t try to one-up some one else’s story the minute they finish…it’s really off-putting!

Great article Christine (again). This is really a topic I think more people should read about. However, it seems that the most guilty parties are ignorant to the fact that they even commit these crimes and can’t be stopped. God help us! haha

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]]> By: Ryan http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2009/06/17/6-ways-to-not-be-a-holier-than-thou-traveler/comment-page-1/#comment-92833 Ryan Mon, 13 Jul 2009 07:17:08 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=2968#comment-92833 ditto ditto

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]]> By: Steve http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/2009/06/17/6-ways-to-not-be-a-holier-than-thou-traveler/comment-page-1/#comment-92801 Steve Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:14:04 +0000 http://www.bravenewtraveler.com/?p=2968#comment-92801 Rather sad to say, my first thought on reading this article was, adding countries that don't exist any more will get the count over 195 -- did I mention I've been to Hong Kong, Yugoslavia, and East Germany? I like the advice but I think I'm a lost cause. One of my buddies jokes no matter how mundane the topic of discussion, like stop signs, I'll probably add something like, "Did you know in Africa stop signs aren't red?" Rather sad to say, my first thought on reading this article was, adding countries that don’t exist any more will get the count over 195 — did I mention I’ve been to Hong Kong, Yugoslavia, and East Germany?

I like the advice but I think I’m a lost cause. One of my buddies jokes no matter how mundane the topic of discussion, like stop signs, I’ll probably add something like, “Did you know in Africa stop signs aren’t red?”

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